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video in the link No diesel, DEF, or hydraulic hoses to blow? Hmmm....... https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...uture-of-work-at-ces-2022-301453915.html"The T7X is the first machine of its kind to be fully electric, offering the full benefits of eliminating hydraulic systems, components, emissions and vibrations – all while providing cleaner, quieter machines. "Doosan Bobcat is at the forefront of innovation, and we are proud to debut the all-electric technology of the T7X to help customers maximize both sustainability and productivity," said Scott Park, president and CEO of Doosan Bobcat, Inc. "Our focus remains on providing solutions and products that empower people to accomplish more and build a better world." The Bobcat T7X is the world's first all-electric compact track loader. This machine is fully battery-powered, built to be more productive from the ground up with electric actuation and propulsion, quieter with high-performance torque and more powerful than any diesel-fueled track loader that has ever come before it – all while eliminating any carbon emissions. "This machine is a technological feat for Bobcat and for the entire industry," said Joel Honeyman, vice president of global innovation at Doosan Bobcat. "We challenged the status quo to deliver a connected, all-electric machine designed for power and performance that previously was not possible. We are excited to share this advancement with the world and proud of the hard work that has gone into making this a reality."
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Indoor operations is where this will excel as well. Areas with combustible materials etc.
Paper mills, mines etc
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I am in the market for a Takeuchi. Won't be considering an electric Bobcat. I'm ok with my carbon footprint.
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No muffs needed? Talk to someone on the ground? Works in the cold?
Has possibilities.
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No muffs needed? Talk to someone on the ground? Works in the cold?
Has possibilities.
No DEF freezing? No hydraulics to warm up for 20 minutes before you can move one pallet?
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4 hour run time? Cool, go home at lunch time and come back tomorrow.
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At least Robert G LeTourneau was smart enough to put a big ass genset on his 60 years ago.
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I'm wondering if your insurance company will require storing it outside, so when it inevitably has a catastrophic electrical fire it doesn't burn up the rest of your equipment.
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I have 3 VW tiguans in the shop at present, all with electronic power steering issues !
Electric & cold, do not go together !
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4 hour run time? Cool, go home at lunch time and come back tomorrow. We use ours four days per week for about an hour, maybe two. I suspect there's a lot of others that don't dog a machine 8 hrs or more a day. Farmers mucking out stables in the morning, that sort of thing. We've most certainly done long days when doing construction, but 99% of the time it's loading or unloading a truck, moving some stuff around, spreading some cinders, whatever.
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I'm wondering if your insurance company will require storing it outside, so when it inevitably has a catastrophic electrical fire it doesn't burn up the rest of your equipment. That's likely more of a product of the mfg and not being electric. Paper mills in my area have HUNDREDS of electric lift trucks, mobility carts and SVGs and if they had a propensity to burst into flames due to being electric - they wouldn't be there.
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I'm not up on heavy equipment. If those cylinders aren't hydraulic, what are they? That could be a motor attached to it. Are they driven by a screw?
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Linear actuator - operates like hydraulics?
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Imagine how much money was wasted on R&D, prototyping and manufacturing to get this POS on the market. Also imagine if you will how much tax money the Biden administration has given them to produce this splendid boat anchor. Then imagine how much this is going to raise the prices of their other products.
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But it's "Zero Emissions" , until you have to plug it into the grid to recharge.
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Indoor operations is where this will excel as well. Areas with combustible materials etc.
Paper mills, mines etc Yep. Food plants as well during construction activities. Example-Where normally you would use a gas saw for concrete cutting, we will pay a premium to bring in big electric saws. Keeps exhaust fumes from accidentally migrating where you don’t want them. Most activities in a plant where a skid steer would be handy are just a few minutes here and there over a couple days. Lots less paperwork to fill out if no combustion going on.
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I'm wondering if your insurance company will require storing it outside, so when it inevitably has a catastrophic electrical fire it doesn't burn up the rest of your equipment. That's likely more of a product of the mfg and not being electric. Paper mills in my area have HUNDREDS of electric lift trucks, mobility carts and SVGs and if they had a propensity to burst into flames due to being electric - they wouldn't be there. In all fairness, those are probably lead-acid, not Li-ion. Li-ion fires are not unheard of, but they aren't an every day occurrence, either. The Chevy Bolt comes to mind. About a dozen out of 30,000 lit off, and that's the highest rate I know of.
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Imagine how much money was wasted on R&D, prototyping and manufacturing to get this POS on the market. Also imagine if you will how much tax money the Biden administration has given them to produce this splendid boat anchor. Then imagine how much this is going to raise the prices of their other products. I bet you would have been popular in the Apollo era...... .
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I have switched over to electric for a lot of stuff. anchor winches, gurdies, pot haulers. For the lighter duty stuff, electric all the way. Hydraulics suck to work on.
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