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hey kid,

that sucks to hear about the 75 grain Hornady, they shoot great in my 2 rifles.

any experience with the Hornady 55 bthp?

and in your opinion and experience is the 55 Hornady sp the best all around 223/556 bullet for everything between mice and hogs?

I don't load so i just buy factory ammo.


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I have a bunch of the 55 BTHP with cannulure that I bought when the crunch started and I couldn’t get ahold of anything else. They shoot great in my rifles but I haven’t used them enough on critters to have an opinion.

The 55SP has been reliable and predictable on everything I’ve used it on. Coyotes, crows, deer, pigs, elk and probably others in forgetting at the moment. It doesn’t penetrate like the 77s but it hasn’t been erratic. It’s always given 10-12” of penetration in a straight line. Shoots good in everything I’ve tried it in and leaves a nice 1” wound channel. If you go digging you can usually find the jacket peeled down to the cannulure and the core beside if not in it.

I don’t know if the 77TMK is available in a factory load but I consider it the ultimate 223 bullet for game at this time. It’s just been so reliable it’s hard to find anything bad to say about it.

I’ve used the 53TSX quite a bit on pigs and deer and I don’t love it. They give excellent penetration but small wound channels. Maybe the 62s are better, I don’t know and probably won’t buy any to find out.

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Would you mind sharing your 55 hornady load?

I used to use benchmark with them but I'm almost out and am about to load a few trying other powders. Hoping TAC will work, I'm sitting on a bunch

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I’d have to go out to the shop to check my notebook to be exact on charge weights but I pretty much just use whatever powder I can get ahold of that is in the right burn rate range. I know I’ve used at various times TAC, Lever, CFE223, 4895, RL10, 748, 335, and lately Shooters World Rifle Match. I’m not worried about bug hole groups. 95% of my shooting is inside of 200 yards so when I try a load of the brass looks good and I can put the first three inside 1 1/2” or less I usually don’t worry about it. I don’t fret BC numbers for the same reason.

I want reliable functioning in my AR and predictable bullet performance for shooting pigs in the brush.

In my bolt gun I do fiddle a little more but it’s been easy to get to shoot with any bullet I’ve ever put much effort into.

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I appreciate the response

I don't fret super gilt edge accuracy with these types of loads either, I look for good performance across a couple of rifles though if possible. I'm gonna play around with TAC a bit and see how it goes.

I agree with you about the 55 gr hornady sp. It is just a low drama solid performing bullet

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i got a bunch of factory 77 grain factory loaded bthp, they killed hogs last year, may try the 55 sp this year


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Originally Posted by TheKid
I have a bunch of the 55 BTHP with cannulure that I bought when the crunch started and I couldn’t get ahold of anything else. They shoot great in my rifles but I haven’t used them enough on critters to have an opinion.

The 55SP has been reliable and predictable on everything I’ve used it on. Coyotes, crows, deer, pigs, elk and probably others in forgetting at the moment. It doesn’t penetrate like the 77s but it hasn’t been erratic. It’s always given 10-12” of penetration in a straight line. Shoots good in everything I’ve tried it in and leaves a nice 1” wound channel. If you go digging you can usually find the jacket peeled down to the cannulure and the core beside if not in it.

I don’t know if the 77TMK is available in a factory load but I consider it the ultimate 223 bullet for game at this time. It’s just been so reliable it’s hard to find anything bad to say about it.

I’ve used the 53TSX quite a bit on pigs and deer and I don’t love it. They give excellent penetration but small wound channels. Maybe the 62s are better, I don’t know and probably won’t buy any to find out.

Ever messed with the 69 grain TMK?


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I've shot the 69 tmk some. Not at hogs but on coyotes and other varmints plus a few deer.

I'd say it acts similarly to the 77 tmk but is a bit more explosive, at the cost of less penetration though. I'd have no problems using it anywhere I would use a 55 hornady or a 77 tmk.

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That’s good to know. I haven’t used the 69 TMK but I would if I could find some. They might be the business in my 9 twist bolt gun

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I like them in my 9 twist montana. They are the best pitch going for it. 77s tmk and 75 elds are a no go in it.

Wish I could find some more 69 TMKs as well.

I just got 1k of Rocky mountain reloadings 69 smk clone. I'm sure they will not have the same performance of the TMK but should be similar to the SMK plus the price is great and they are available

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Originally Posted by TheKid
That’s good to know. I haven’t used the 69 TMK but I would if I could find some. They might be the business in my 9 twist bolt gun

That's where I am at.


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Great thread !


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Great thread !


Indeed.


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threads on this subject over on nzhunting and shooting are good value

i know guys are shooting hundreds of WT in texas for animal control but that's more like killing billy goats then reds.

surprised how well the 69gr tmk is regarded over there. i'd be keen to try it myself but i'm pretty deep in 77's and 75gr tipped stuff.

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For you fellers using the 69 or 77 grain tipped bullets are you killing mature deer at ranges of under 50-75 yards?

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
For you fellers using the 69 or 77 grain tipped bullets are you killing mature deer at ranges of under 50-75 yards?


I haven’t tried tipped heavies, but the 75 gr Speer Gold Dot is good at any range. It’s affordable (when available) and accurate too. It’s my favorite bullet in 223 and 22-250.


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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
For you fellers using the 69 or 77 grain tipped bullets are you killing mature deer at ranges of under 50-75 yards?

I haven’t shot any deer that close. But I have shot some pretty big pigs at that range and much closer, some under 10 yards. They’re devastating though penetration does suffer some.

I’m using them in an 18” 223 which keeps the speeds down and probably helps with consistent performance. A buddy tried them in his 22 Creed and wasn’t impressed. He said they seemed very soft. I guess at 3500fps or however fast a Creed will run a 77 everything but a mono probably is pretty soft.

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https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/223-for-bear-deer-elk-and-moose.130488/

I don't know if you guys have seen this or not. Thought it may be of interest to most in this thread. If it's already here, my apologies. A whole lot of info on the 77 TMK. With some good pictures.

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I’ve shot a herd of game with the old version 75 Amax and it’s about all I use
And I’m running them at better than 3400
From 10 yards to 500 deer hate it !
As a matter of fact everything hates them


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Anybody used the 62gr SP Hornady that Midsouth has in stock right now? It looks like a slightly longer 55SP so I’m guessing they’re good to go but I’d hate to spring for 500 and find out they suck.

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