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Quoted for truth. It's extremely disappointing that many Canadians don't understand this, or the dangerous door their 'just deny them healthcare' stance opens.

Thanks, Dwayne! I hope all is well with you and yours, and that the weekend has treated you well.

There is certainly something to be said for individual responsibility, privatized healthcare, and libertarianism. But alas, we can't have it all. If we want a socialized healthcare system, then we must assume the health risks of all. If not, then there is always private health care in which each citizen takes their own risks.

Jordan;
Good afternoon, I hope you all are well too.

We're still fair to better out here thanks kindly.

Indeed well said again sir, "But alas, we can't have it all"..

What I find myself explaining to folks a whole lot lately is that they have to look at many of these measures through a lens that "might" have an effect on them someday, given a different government or set of circumstances.

Folks that weren't affected by closing of places of worship but could still go to their favorite casino or non firearm owners come to mind here.

A good friend of mine used to use this phrase in company business meetings that both made me laugh and yet was pretty truthful. Someone else would be going on about whatever and he'd blurt out, "Hey wait a minute, how does this affect ME?"

All the best to you and yours this upcoming week Jordan.

Dwayne

Starting to look worse for our governing bodies if thats even possible.....Ontario and BC have now admitted the numbers we have been deluged with are not what they seem.

https://tnc.news/2022/01/09/dr-bonn...9x9-usu81_y-2Xl__jBjzqzTT0D7KHjPoV9qIbLg


And now the director of the CDC did the same thing.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cdc-d...ns-covid-related-deaths-data-forthcoming

Simply cant believe a word they say.

Jordan I do think that the COVID waves have exposed some very serious problems with AHS and their approach to management of health care in the province. I do know that infection control has taken over influencing a huge portion of hopsital operations. Almost to the point that people inside the organization no longer question their directives. Is it this group that shut down access to treatment, testing and minor surgeries during the various waves? Some group is making decisions that is adversly affecting numerous people that do not have COVID. A number of people I do know have had delays to cancer treatment, hip replacements, knee surgeries or testing to determine the source of pain / illness. This is a serious wrong.

Why is it that some of these tests can be carried out in private facilities, while the public ones are shut down? Why is it that we are now 2 years into this and AHS is still running the same way for isolation of facilities? I asked a nurse I know that manages in an ICU area what changes have been made from the first wave to what we are experiencing now -- her response -- "nothing - we are still working the same ". Suggestions on access changes have not been adopted.

I really think it is time to go beyond the only system needs to be public and move to a blended system. I injured a shoulder during the Christmas break (torn tendons). My Doctor told me it would be 1 year for seeing an ortho specialist and then another 2 to 3 years for surgery due to the backlog created by COVID. I checked around and can arrange for private surgery in a private clinic in another province or in the states in a matter of months. Why can we not have this openly in Canada (Quebec already has)? Why is the default on this discussion either or --- not --- we can have both. Why do we not compare to Europe -- is it because our performance stats - patient care / dollar investiment (particularly on the administration side) are so bad that government does not want the citizens to be aware. Why do we create this one size fits all hopsitals when many of the treatments could be carried out in smaller speciality clinics.

Something has to change because throwing more money at a bad system will give the same bad results as we have seen. The discussion needs to include some of the really bad union agreements as in some regions these are directly impacting staffing and deployment of resources.

I agree completely. A blended system would seem to offer the best of all worlds.

Yukon on my side I am fully vaccinated however I take a view that this was a personal choice for my own reasons. I have moved sometime back to the same viewpoint for people that choose not to be vaccinated -- their choice. Each person has to live with their own decision, and I wish that both groups would stop getting in each others faces.

The inconsistencies that have been put forward on any one of the issues around COVID are numerous. Pick an issue:

Masks -- masks will not help (hmmm why are we seeing Asian countries with full masking), masks will help -- they can be medical disposal or cloth, cloth masks need o be constructed a certain way, you do not need N95's, now you should wear N95's (with one political party advocating for N95's for children) -- no mention on the need for fit testing.

Travel, Airborne, Surface Contact Transmission, Government Control --- pick anyone and research the issue to see both how the government health agencies have flipped or more importantly been 3 to 6 months behind other countries.

With these inconsistencies I can see why people may choose not to be vaccinated. Then you have Trudeau saying that people that are anti vax are racist / misogynist --- does this include the health care workers that are now being given exceptions so that there are not staff shortages or just people outside of Quebec since he made this statement in French?

There have been a huge number of fumbles by leaders during the last 2+ years and more will come.

I still look for individuals to make their own decisions and hopefully at somepoint we can get past the split that has been created by leadership.

Town hall in BC tonight. The unscripted questions from a completely unbiased cross section of People will be expected.
I won't be able to watch, no real reason, just won't be able to.

I couldnt agree more. With everything you said in your last two posts. I've said from the beginning that it should be a personal decision whether you get vaccinated or not. I also believe everyone should be given "informed consent," and I dont think that has happened. My wife has worked a couple of vaccine clinics as a paramedic, and she observed that no one was given any information on the possible side effects the vaccines may cause, even though though some are listed right on the label of the vaccine. That is wrong.

I do think there is hope for the two sides to come together. Every day that goes by more comes to light. Interviews like the two Joe Rogan did with Malone and McCullough were seen by over 50-million people. The outright inaccurate statements by the two supreme court justices during the oral arguments on the OSHA case in the USA were broadcast live for all to hear.

The health care system in all provinces and Territories was in a bad way before covid. I really dont think most Canadians knew just how bad, but we saw it every day as paramedics. Covid made it worse. Much worse. After decades of having to fly Yukon residents south for MRIs, we finally got an MRI unit in Whitehorse a few years ago. When they mandated the vaccine on all health workers a couple months ago, we lost the MRI techs. Now we have an MRI that is sitting idle until they can replace those techs, and thats not an easy task. People are starting to notice that the mandates effect everyone in some way.

Two days ago the small community of Watson Lake lost power late in the evening. It was -47. The electric company had fired the only two linemen in town because they wouldnt get vaccinated. That kind of stuff makes everyone realize how far off the rails this government has taken us. Meanwhile the very same people who are pushing this stuff are being caught on camera all over the world doing the exact things they are telling us we cant do.

This is a very good article and gives me hope for the future :

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinio...utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa

Alberta Government is heading right back down the rabbit hole .. complete friggin morons.. targeting kids now the bastards should be hung .

From Jordan Peterson today.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jo...re-canadians-wreck-something-we-cant-fix

“There are no risk-free paths forward. There is only one risk, or another. Pick your poison: that’s the choice life often offers. I am weary of living under the increasingly authoritarian dictates of a polity hyper-concerned with one risk, and oblivious to all others. And things are shaking around us.

Enough, Canadians. Enough, Canadian politicos. Enough masks. Enough social gathering limitations. Enough restaurant closures. Enough undermining of social trust. Make the bloody vaccines available to those who want them. Quit using force to ensure compliance on the part of those who don’t. Some of the latter might be crazy but, by and large, they are no crazier than the rest of us.

Set a date. Open the damn country back up, before we wreck something we can’t fix.

Time for some courage.

Let’s live again.”

And on the other side:

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/edi...for-those-who-still-wont-get-vaxxed.html

“If they can’t protect themselves, we will protect them against themselves,” said Dubé.”

The Quebec gov’t is resorting to totalitarianism and fascism.

So much with what wrong on the initial handling of the virus (lack of travel restrictions) in Canada was due to pandering to Quebec, the inactions in seniors complexes, the fat government contracts to Liberal insiders in Quebec that have produced nothing ---- I am fine with that province within their own boundaries penalizing their own population.

Jordan is one of Canada's jewels, along with Rex. The director of the CDC has now said in public, and on tape, that a full 75% of the people who died from covid in the USA had at least FOUR co-morbidities . Also word coming from some airline pilots who are saying that a full 80% of pilots will quit before they take the booster.

Lifesitenews is one of the best news outlets I have found that seems to be on top of whats going on around the world with covid. They will usually have even Canadian stories posted long before any other news outlet.

Beginning to wonder if part of the the agenda is to bankrupt, break down and disassemble the public medicare system while appearing to look like they are trying to save it.

It was broken before the Wuhan, now with an aging populace I don't see it getting better.

They are trying to bankrupt and breakdown everybody, I think this is a prerequisite to "re-imagine economic systems" that Trudeau spoke about.
I believe Trudeau is a madman and unfit to govern.

To add, I wouldn't be surprised if Trudeau is given a promotion on the World stage when we have re-imagined economic systems to his satisfaction.

In the beginning of his tenure, I wasnt worried about Trudeau. I thought he was just in politics for the fun of it. I, along with many others, didnt really take him seriously. We were wrong. Dead wrong. Not only is he a madman, he's a dangerous one. I shudder to think what the country would look like if he had total control.

Yeah, so I could only watch 2 minutes of the town hall meeting in BC, hosted by Henry and...diks, the words "the system" were used enough to tell me I was wasting my time viewing it, like I knew it would be.

She is the one who dismantled the infastructure of workers by firing them....then told them that if they didn't get Vaccinated then maybe they chose the wrong profession. Then said... you can come back now. To watch the two buffoons look for others to blame for the situation only breeds contempt from Citizens.

Cracks are beginning to appear....big cracks. That they have been lying from the beginning is not even a question any longer. Wasnt that long ago and anyone who questioned the "numbers" was labeled a science denying conspiracy nut. Now they are admitting it on MSM...


https://www.americanthinker.com/blo..._covids_deadliness_you_were_correct.html

I haven't seen Tucker for awhile, but yes the same lies have been told to Canadians, and we believe them. It has only recently been revealed its generally People with multiple Comorbidities who have been dying.

Yet they wont tell People to lose some weight, diabetes, etc....kills on its own.

This Henry tells us to send your kid to school, its going to be ok, its mild in Children. Then in the next breath she implores them to jab their kids or else....fugg off Henry.

I really do wonder who is stupid enough to Vaccinate their kids on the advice of one or more liars. I wonder what it feels like to mislead masses of People through fear to do things an otherwise sane populace would not do.