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I'm wondering what he is saying about this.

Russia wants those countries for themselves but those countries are wanting to free themselves from Marxism and democratize.

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Originally Posted by Malcolm
I'm wondering what he is saying about this.

Russia wants those countries for themselves but those countries are wanting to free themselves from Marxism and democratize.

You reckon Ukraine is less corrupt than Russia? I pray to the Lord we stay out of it.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by Malcolm
I'm wondering what he is saying about this.

Russia wants those countries for themselves but those countries are wanting to free themselves from Marxism and democratize.

You reckon Ukraine is less corrupt than Russia? I pray to the Lord we stay out of it.



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You do know that the US’ influence has manipulated Ukraine’s election outcomes don’t you?

If the US got involved it wouldn’t be to free the Ukrainian people from the tyrant to the east but to ensure they were shackled to one in the west.

This has been our MO since Wilsonianism gained prominence, with the exception of the Coolidge & Trump administrations.

Can’t speak for the Pres but I believe Trump would say our business is keeping our affairs in order on the home front first and there is a lot to be done here before we presume to manage the affairs of others.

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We wouldn't be in this situation if they hadn't stolen the election. Kazakhstan is most probably a far more pressing problem than Ukraine is at present but they're both a product of the Biden Administration and it's insane foreign policies.

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Originally Posted by efw
You do know that the US’ influence has manipulated Ukraine’s election outcomes don’t you?

If the US got involved it wouldn’t be to free the Ukrainian people from the tyrant to the east but to ensure they were shackled to one in the west.

This has been our MO since Wilsonianism gained prominence, with the exception of the Coolidge & Trump administrations.

Can’t speak for the Pres but I believe Trump would say our business is keeping our affairs in order on the home front first and there is a lot to be done here before we presume to manage the affairs of others.

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ukraine doesnt want the US or NATO anyway. The price is too high. Look at the decades long trail of destroyed and fragmented countries we were supposed to have rescued. All we do is create chaos and pump resources out of them as fast as we can. A russian takeover gets them same standard of living.

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Originally Posted by 158XTP
ukraine doesnt want the US or NATO anyway. The price is too high. Look at the decades long trail of destroyed and fragmented countries we were supposed to have rescued. All we do is create chaos and pump resources out of them as fast as we can. A russian takeover gets them same standard of living.



I thought you were in Oz?


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 158XTP
ukraine doesnt want the US or NATO anyway. The price is too high. Look at the decades long trail of destroyed and fragmented countries we were supposed to have rescued. All we do is create chaos and pump resources out of them as fast as we can. A russian takeover gets them same standard of living.



I thought you were in Oz?


If so that’s a mighty ominous “we”

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Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 158XTP
ukraine doesnt want the US or NATO anyway. The price is too high. Look at the decades long trail of destroyed and fragmented countries we were supposed to have rescued. All we do is create chaos and pump resources out of them as fast as we can. A russian takeover gets them same standard of living.



I thought you were in Oz?


If so that’s a mighty ominous “we”


I’ve called him in it before. I loathe reading post by foreigners concerning domestic policy and our politics


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 158XTP
ukraine doesnt want the US or NATO anyway. The price is too high. Look at the decades long trail of destroyed and fragmented countries we were supposed to have rescued. All we do is create chaos and pump resources out of them as fast as we can. A russian takeover gets them same standard of living.



I thought you were in Oz?


'Óz'contributes in NATO míssions and supported the US in most of the bungled invasions since Korea. I was part of the last one personally, the one 4 presidents bungled, ending up leaving the bad guys in charge with a bunch of cool toys.

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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 158XTP
ukraine doesnt want the US or NATO anyway. The price is too high. Look at the decades long trail of destroyed and fragmented countries we were supposed to have rescued. All we do is create chaos and pump resources out of them as fast as we can. A russian takeover gets them same standard of living.



I thought you were in Oz?


If so that’s a mighty ominous “we”


I’ve called him in it before. I loathe reading post by foreigners concerning domestic policy and our politics



Our politics does affect the rest of the world in many cases.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 158XTP
ukraine doesnt want the US or NATO anyway. The price is too high. Look at the decades long trail of destroyed and fragmented countries we were supposed to have rescued. All we do is create chaos and pump resources out of them as fast as we can. A russian takeover gets them same standard of living.



I thought you were in Oz?


If so that’s a mighty ominous “we”


I’ve called him in it before. I loathe reading post by foreigners concerning domestic policy and our politics



Our politics does affect the rest of the world in many cases.


I’m not contesting that. But posters that live in a prison colony opining on our elected officials etc should find other topics.


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Originally Posted by 158XTP
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Originally Posted by 158XTP
ukraine doesnt want the US or NATO anyway. The price is too high. Look at the decades long trail of destroyed and fragmented countries we were supposed to have rescued. All we do is create chaos and pump resources out of them as fast as we can. A russian takeover gets them same standard of living.



I thought you were in Oz?


'Óz'contributes in NATO míssions and supported the US in most of the bungled invasions since Korea. I was part of the last one personally, the one 4 presidents bungled, ending up leaving the bad guys in charge with a bunch of cool toys.



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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 158XTP
ukraine doesnt want the US or NATO anyway. The price is too high. Look at the decades long trail of destroyed and fragmented countries we were supposed to have rescued. All we do is create chaos and pump resources out of them as fast as we can. A russian takeover gets them same standard of living.



I thought you were in Oz?


If so that’s a mighty ominous “we”


I’ve called him in it before. I loathe reading post by foreigners concerning domestic policy and our politics



Our politics does affect the rest of the world in many cases.


I’m not contesting that. But posters that live in a prison colony opining on our elected officials etc should find other topics.



I believe Oz has been our ally for many long years now.

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"Ukraine" and its current boundaries are a product of the old USSR, not some traditional centuries old "country". The eastern third of "Ukraine" is mostly ethnic Russian, and has been for a long time. If a legal, honest vote were taken today the people of that region would join Russia.


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Originally Posted by Sharpsman
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It might be surprising how few in the USA have any idea where Ukraine is. I once asked a former junior high school world geography teacher if she could tell me where the Balkans versus the Baltics were. She had no idea where either was. Imagine if someone asked the average American where Diego Garcia is. They wouldn't know what part of the ocean it is in.


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