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Some anti hunting group with a magazine did not transplant the wolves. The US Fish and Wildlife Service did.
Some anti hunting group could make any kind of claims for why wolves were brought here but it does not make it true.
Read Carter’s book if you want the real story.
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I will go with my experience, and my data and observation, because I don't trust "the data". I am suggesting a 60-70% reduction of game in my area, based on my observation. I am normally in the bush everyday, a bush I have been my entire life. It is not my observation alone, but the combining of observations of others who have the ability to extrapolate the obvious signs of Ungulate decline.
I have seen area's you could easily see 3-5... 4 point Mule deer a day, 24"-30" bucks... to seeing none in a day just 2 years later, finding several carcasses a day from Wolves. Or area's where we used to put 2 Whitetail bucks in the freezer every year to not putting one in the freezer in 6 years, not seeing any at all.
Black Bears are bad too, if you only shoot boars, same with Cougar's...you haven't done anything to help Ungulates, the opposite really as the boars will hopefully prey on the baby Bears lol. I have a friend who isn't a hunter, he will gleefully watch a Bear kill 10-15 fawns a day from his kitchen window and not think past that.
Regulated hunters hopefully don't shoot females unless regulated to do so, Wolves do kill females, not sure how science is to work when that happens?
I view Wolf lovers with suspicion, pure and simple.
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Some anti hunting group with a magazine did not transplant the wolves. The US Fish and Wildlife Service did.
Some anti hunting group could make any kind of claims for why wolves were brought here but it does not make it true.
Read Carter’s book if you want the real story. I didn't say that articles in a magazine brought in the wolves. I said this: "At the time, they were working to get their people in positions of power in the Forest Svc, US Fish and Wildlife Svc, and other similar agencies. Over time, they got it done and now we have the wolves."
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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I read this 5 years before the original introductions in one of the anti-hunting magazines that someone gave me.
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