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My Vortex caught a virus from the Leupolds that it was locked in the safe with!

Worked up a load for my .308 Bergara and desepite the 20 degree temp decided to shoot it and get it sighted in.

first three shot group about 4" right, elevation 0. No problem 15 clicks L should put it right on at 100. added 15L Fired another 3 right on top of the first. ???

Added 4L three shots now Left of desired zero.

Wound the windage turret full turn left and right. Fired 3 shots to desired zero.

This has been a reliable scope, but never really tested it in the cold. It gave the classic Leupold BS


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I hate it when they do that. The full turn left then right is a good idea when the clicks are dragging their feet.


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Guy at the range today started hollerin about his crosshairs falling out. Looked through his scope and the crosshairs were laying over at a 45, and broke in two. Vortex.


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I can help you out.

Box up all of those poisonous Leupolds and send them to me.


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Im not a click counter…When sighting in I shoot the group, then while holding the crosshairs on my desired point of impact, twist the adjustment til the crosshairs are centered over the group I shot. Confirm and done. Ive got and had many scopes that wont adjust correctly but rarely have one that wont hold the zero, so I gave up on the frustration of counting the clicks.

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Depending on the particular problem, dialing to the hole/group may not work either.

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Ha! Thats a good idea WL205, I will try it sometime 👍......Hb

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Which model?

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Originally Posted by Torqued
I can help you out.

Box up all of those poisonous Leupolds and send them to me.


Same here, i'll even pay for shipping. smile


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Go to Dr. Nightforce and be done.....

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The only popular brand more unreliable than Leupold.


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Originally Posted by leftycarbon
My Vortex caught a virus from the Leupolds that it was locked in the safe with!

Worked up a load for my .308 Bergara and desepite the 20 degree temp decided to shoot it and get it sighted in.

first three shot group about 4" right, elevation 0. No problem 15 clicks L should put it right on at 100. added 15L Fired another 3 right on top of the first. ???

Added 4L three shots now Left of desired zero.

Wound the windage turret full turn left and right. Fired 3 shots to desired zero.

This has been a reliable scope, but never really tested it in the cold. It gave the classic Leupold BS


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What exact model of Vortex?

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Originally Posted by JPro
I hate it when they do that. The full turn left then right is a good idea when the clicks are dragging their feet.


If you have to do that with your scope, I think you need a different scope.

I played that game for years with some scopes. Weak design.

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Originally Posted by scottfromdallas
The only popular brand more unreliable than Leupold.

Not the higher models.

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Originally Posted by leftycarbon


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Another Gen 2 owner that’s going to find out all about the great warranty of Vortex. I can’t bring myself to own anything from them. It’s sad because I’m not loyal to any company.


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I like the scope it's been my play gun and have shot it out to 750 and back. has tracked well. its a .308. Have shot it quite a bit since there seems to be no shortage of 30 cal components



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Originally Posted by WL205
Im not a click counter…When sighting in I shoot the group, then while holding the crosshairs on my desired point of impact, twist the adjustment til the crosshairs are centered over the group I shot. Confirm and done. Ive got and had many scopes that wont adjust correctly but rarely have one that wont hold the zero, so I gave up on the frustration of counting the clicks.



That too is dependent on the mechanism working well, if not the clicks
being accurate.

If it is sticky, it may look good watching it, then jump on firing.

That's the problem I have with Leupold.
Move it a bunch, it only goes half as far as it should.
Move it that much more, it goes a bunch.
Move it half back, now it's as far off as in the beginning, other direction.


Funny, never had Tascos do that.


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by WL205
Im not a click counter…When sighting in I shoot the group, then while holding the crosshairs on my desired point of impact, twist the adjustment til the crosshairs are centered over the group I shot. Confirm and done. Ive got and had many scopes that wont adjust correctly but rarely have one that wont hold the zero, so I gave up on the frustration of counting the clicks.



That too is dependent on the mechanism working well, if not the clicks
being accurate.

If it is sticky, it may look good watching it, then jump on firing.

That's the problem I have with Leupold.
Move it a bunch, it only goes half as far as it should.
Move it that much more, it goes a bunch.
Move it half back, now it's as far off as in the beginning, other direction.


Funny, never had Tascos do that.



A brief synopsis of the next 10-20 pages of what happens after someone dares state they have trouble with Leupold:

Shortly there will be a gang of micro aggressed Leupold apologists along to explain to you that you don't know how to mount a scope, you expect too much precision out of a scope, you're too rough with your equipment, you shoot too many rounds in a year, you choose cartridges that recoil too much, you don't need to have reliable dialing because hold over is better, real hunters get closer to the game, etc, etc, etc.

Then they will go on a brief rant about how their Leupolds have never given them a bit of grief, so they can't possibly fathom that someone else had trouble with a single one of them. This will include a list of all the functionality they don't expect out of their scopes. It'll end with an American flag wrapped explanation of how merely stating you had a problem with a Leupold is just un American and that any Asiatic sourced optic (except the ones assembled in Beaverton, of course) should come with a copy of the Communist Manifesto, an AOC T shirt, and a one way ticket to North Korea. When it's all over you'll almost want to say amen because it'll have felt a lot like a sermon.


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