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Thanks To Mule Deer #16846209 01/16/22 Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA J jwp475 OP Campfire 'Bwana OP jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,967 Likes: 5 USA For sharing his knowledge here with everyone! Even as rude as some posters are. Thank you for your generosity with your industry knowledge. I only have Federal 215 primers and I asked if they would work in the 22-250 and JB told me that they would but probably require a grain or so less powder. Loading with CFE223 Hogdon listed a top charge of 39.2 grain with WLP primer for 3857 FPS I topped out at 38 grains for 3827 FPS.. Last edited by jwp475; 01/16/22. I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16846292 01/16/22 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,476 Where the wild things are. Sakoluvr Campfire Outfitter Sakoluvr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,476 Where the wild things are. JB always makes himself available to share his life long experience. I have benefited from his knowledge many times. Thanks again JB Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is. dogzapper After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box. Italian Proverb

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16846432 01/16/22 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,931 Likes: 3 SE_WI Mr_TooDogs Campfire Outfitter Mr_TooDogs Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,931 Likes: 3 SE_WI Yep, +1 GOA

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16846474 01/16/22 Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,100 Likes: 3 Colorado Springs, CO, USA S saddlesore Campfire Ranger saddlesore Campfire Ranger S Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 19,100 Likes: 3 Colorado Springs, CO, USA Yep,+2 If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16846485 01/16/22 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,854 Smoky Mountains, TN bwinters Campfire Outfitter bwinters Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,854 Smoky Mountains, TN +3. Adversity doesn't build character, it reveals it.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16846512 01/16/22 Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 239 WV G gbear Campfire Member gbear Campfire Member G Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 239 WV Yeah Muley, thanks for sharing your wisdom, providing direction, and suffering the occasional fool gladly….

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16846656 01/16/22 Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,621 Vermont PintsofCraft Campfire Regular PintsofCraft Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 2,621 Vermont Well said. Couldn’t agree more. Thanks, JB!

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16846694 01/16/22 Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 990 Texas C CRJ1960 Campfire Regular CRJ1960 Campfire Regular C Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 990 Texas Yep, thanks to John and his writings and advice I own a 6.5x55, (3) 7x57’s, (2) 250 Savages and a 204 Ruger. Before that I was happy with one M77 30-06 tanger. Never knew how much I was missing out on. Thanks MuleDeer! "You may all go to Hell, and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crockett

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16846992 01/16/22 Joined: May 2018 Posts: 1,510 St. George, Utah S StGeorger Campfire Regular StGeorger Campfire Regular S Joined: May 2018 Posts: 1,510 St. George, Utah His book on cartridges and loads is my first go. Old guy, old guns.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16847078 01/16/22 Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana Thanks very much, guys! But must admit I get far more out of the Campfire than I could ever provide. It's a great place to find out what shooters/hunters are interested in, along with varied reports on different stuff. John “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16847390 01/16/22 Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 2,561 Ohio HeavyLoad Campfire Regular HeavyLoad Campfire Regular Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 2,561 Ohio I’ve contacted him in private a couple times with questions. Because I knew if I asked the questions on here in public I’d get 100 different responses. Some would be right I’m sure and some would have been wrong. But the main reason was so the dickheads wouldn’t have gotten involved. Thanks JB/MD Edit: perfect example in big game rifles right now. Last edited by HeavyLoad; 01/16/22.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16847443 01/16/22 Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,539 NORTHEAST GEORGIA K kandpand Campfire Tracker kandpand Campfire Tracker K Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,539 NORTHEAST GEORGIA Yes, Thanks Mule Deer. Everyone should subscribe to Rifle Loony News to show our appreciation. “Go afield with a good attitude, with respect for the forest and fields in which you walk. Immerse yourself in the outdoor experience. It will cleanse your soul and make you a better person” -Fred Bear

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer HeavyLoad #16847537 01/16/22 Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,003 Magnolia,TX D Deans Campfire Regular Deans Campfire Regular D Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,003 Magnolia,TX Originally Posted by HeavyLoad I’ve contacted him in private a couple times with questions. Because I knew if I asked the questions on here in public I’d get 100 different responses. Some would be right I’m sure and some would have been wrong. But the main reason was so the dickheads wouldn’t have gotten involved. Thanks JB/MD ^^^^^^^^^ This ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~ “Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.” ISAIAH 41:10

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16847647 01/16/22 Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 996 Likes: 1 Indiana J JTrapper73 Campfire Regular JTrapper73 Campfire Regular J Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 996 Likes: 1 Indiana I’ve been a fan for years. I have sure appreciated him taking time out to answer questions and share his expertise. That’s a lot of years of experience and research that he’s accumulated from all parts of the world. I’ve learned a lot.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16847833 01/16/22 Joined: Jun 2019 Posts: 2,523 TRexF16 Campfire Regular TRexF16 Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2019 Posts: 2,523 What y'all said. Rex

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16847970 01/16/22 Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,874 Likes: 22 Texas hanco Campfire Savant hanco Campfire Savant Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,874 Likes: 22 Texas Thanks for your time and knowledge your share with us!. Thank you jwp475 for starting this! Overdue Last edited by hanco; 01/16/22.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848016 01/16/22 Joined: May 2011 Posts: 15,921 Likes: 1 Oklahoma O OSU_Sig Campfire Ranger OSU_Sig Campfire Ranger O Joined: May 2011 Posts: 15,921 Likes: 1 Oklahoma Can't add anything that hasn't already been said. JB is a resource of inestimable value and we are fortunate to have him. There are 2 rules to success: 1. Never tell everything that you know.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848057 01/16/22 Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 712 The Rockies boomwack Campfire Regular boomwack Campfire Regular Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 712 The Rockies Mule deer has been a mountain of help and knowledge for me since before this 'interweb' stuff got going.... Thanks a bunch John!! happiness is elbow deep in elk guts. NRA life member

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848075 01/16/22 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,143 3 300_savage Campfire Regular 300_savage Campfire Regular 3 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,143 Agreed. Along with his generous sharing of time and expertise with us, his writing is interesting to read. The first paragraph of his first bore scope article still makes me laugh when that issue makes it back to the top of my reading pile of old gun magazines.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848125 01/16/22 Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,213 Adirondacks F fshaw Campfire Regular fshaw Campfire Regular F Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,213 Adirondacks Always enjoy what he writes, knowledgable and to the point. Thank you.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848135 01/16/22 Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,662 Likes: 2 Wyotana Cowboybart Campfire Tracker Cowboybart Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,662 Likes: 2 Wyotana Thanx. I enjoyed you on Gun Talk a few weeks ago too Some is Good---More is Better----Too Much is Just Right

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848247 01/16/22 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,347 Columbia, SC G GreggH Campfire Regular GreggH Campfire Regular G Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,347 Columbia, SC Enjoying Gack 3 right now. Hope for more sequels. GreggH

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848313 01/16/22 Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas J jwall Campfire Ranger jwall Campfire Ranger J Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 19,179 Southern Arkansas My Thanks & Appreciation Too. It’s a great benefit to get info from someone with connections inside of the firearms & ammo industries. Thanks Again Jerry Last edited by jwall; 01/17/22. jwall- *** 3100 guy*** A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848369 01/16/22 Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 2,454 Likes: 4 7 7mm_Loco Campfire Regular 7mm_Loco Campfire Regular 7 Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 2,454 Likes: 4 ... Yes... Thank You MD... I have always considered this place as "OZ".. and Mule Deer the "Wizard"... Last edited by 7mm_Loco; 01/16/22.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848388 01/16/22 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,938 Pennsylvania P PennDog Campfire Regular PennDog Campfire Regular P Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,938 Pennsylvania What the others have said - many times over. Generous with his knowledge and time and much appreciated from my perspective!! Thank you, PennDog

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848456 01/16/22 Joined: Sep 2020 Posts: 759 Arizona O Old__School Campfire Regular Old__School Campfire Regular O Joined: Sep 2020 Posts: 759 Arizona Always appreciate the responses JB has given to my posts.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848468 01/16/22 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,820 Likes: 1 T toltecgriz Campfire Ranger toltecgriz Campfire Ranger T Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 19,820 Likes: 1 ...and he's a pretty decent writer for a gun hack. (intended as a well deserved compliment) "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." Fess Parker as Davy Crockett

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848481 01/16/22 Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,258 Likes: 3 Henderson, NV NVhntr Campfire Outfitter NVhntr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2015 Posts: 13,258 Likes: 3 Henderson, NV I always enjoyed JB's writing. I was directed to the Campfire through several gun related Google searches before I joined. It took me awhile to figure out who Mule Deer was, but when I did is when I joined. Thanks for sharing your knowledge JB! Let's Go Brandon! FJB

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer PennDog #16848488 01/16/22 Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18,018 Likes: 23 A AKwolverine Campfire Ranger AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18,018 Likes: 23 Originally Posted by PennDog What the others have said - many times over. Generous with his knowledge and time and much appreciated from my perspective!! Thank you And another!

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848563 01/17/22 Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 17,181 Northern California Hammerdown Campfire Ranger Hammerdown Campfire Ranger Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 17,181 Northern California He's good people. Not many around now days. Randy NRA Patriot Life Benefactor

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848824 01/17/22 Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,122 Likes: 1 western michigan M michiganroadkill Campfire Tracker michiganroadkill Campfire Tracker M Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,122 Likes: 1 western michigan John is always a straight up gentleman and clear and concise with this info.. One of the true treasures of this site. "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." Albert Einstein At Khe Sanh a sign read "For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the protected never knew".

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848898 01/17/22 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 637 Likes: 2 Wyoming ttpoz Campfire Regular ttpoz Campfire Regular Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 637 Likes: 2 Wyoming Thanks, Mule Deer. I always give your posts substantial weight. ttpoz in silvam ne ligna feras (don't carry logs into the forest)

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848903 01/17/22 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 10,874 Likes: 1 C CrowRifle Campfire Outfitter CrowRifle Campfire Outfitter C Joined: May 2004 Posts: 10,874 Likes: 1 Yep he turned me on to the greatest load ever! .22 Hornet case full of Lil Gun and a CCI Small Rifle Magnum primer.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16848933 01/17/22 Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 24,619 Idaho wageslave Campfire Ranger wageslave Campfire Ranger Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 24,619 Idaho I like Eileen. Slave P.S. JB is solid, but you won’t starve with Eileen. Have Dog Will Travel

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16849108 01/17/22 Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,963 Likes: 1 Mid Michigan G GSPfan Campfire Regular GSPfan Campfire Regular G Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,963 Likes: 1 Mid Michigan As the others have said I appreciate your input here. You helped me turn my #1 450/400 into a deer rifle LOL. I've read the first 10 years of Rifle Looney News more than once. Your writings in Sports Afield are the first thing I read.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16849409 01/17/22 Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 1,779 NC O OGB Campfire Regular OGB Campfire Regular O Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 1,779 NC Yep. Writes from experience not theory and is entertaining to boot. E. F. Hutton of the Gun world. Bore size is no substitute for shot placement and Power is no substitute for bullet performance. 458WIN

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16849584 01/17/22 Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana Thanks again, guys! It's hard to comprehend that I've now been a Campfire member for over 20 years... “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16849770 01/17/22 Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 14,282 N.E.Wisconsin H Huntz Campfire Outfitter Huntz Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 14,282 N.E.Wisconsin JB gives us info not readily available else where.Much appreciated Amigo!! Its all right to be white!! Stupidity left unattended will run rampant Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16849786 01/17/22 Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 8,317 Northern USA P pete53 Campfire Outfitter pete53 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 8,317 Northern USA John , Thank you so much you keep things simple to understand . also put me down for Gun Gack # 4 Pete53 LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16850002 01/17/22 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,476 Where the wild things are. Sakoluvr Campfire Outfitter Sakoluvr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,476 Where the wild things are. My start with JB was the optics column in Petersens hunting if I remember correctly. That was like 40 + years ago? Is that right JB? Bee following you ever since. Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is. dogzapper After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box. Italian Proverb

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer Sakoluvr #16850206 01/17/22 Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana That was right around 30 years ago. Craig Boddington was still editing the magazine then, and hired me. We'd already known each other for a decade! “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer gbear #16850382 01/17/22 Joined: May 2005 Posts: 10,451 north central PA S shootinurse Campfire Outfitter shootinurse Campfire Outfitter S Joined: May 2005 Posts: 10,451 north central PA Originally Posted by gbear Yeah Muley, thanks for sharing your wisdom, providing direction, and suffering the occasional fool gladly…. Fixed it. "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." Robert E. Howard

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16852213 01/17/22 Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,818 HELENA J JeffP40 Campfire Regular JeffP40 Campfire Regular J Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,818 HELENA My favorite forum has always been Ass, the gunwriters. I think, therefore I am, conservative.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer shootinurse #16852231 01/17/22 Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana Originally Posted by shootinurse Originally Posted by gbear Yeah Muley, thanks for sharing your wisdom, providing direction, and suffering the occasional fool gladly…. Fixed it. Yep! :-))) “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16852238 01/17/22 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 957 B.C. M mod7rem Campfire Regular mod7rem Campfire Regular M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 957 B.C. I have stacks of magazines going back years with JB articles. He’s also answered many of my questions in PM’s. Thanks John. Last edited by mod7rem; 01/17/22.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer mod7rem #16852274 01/17/22 Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 3,768 Likes: 1 Republic of Texas R Ranger99 Campfire Tracker Ranger99 Campfire Tracker R Joined: Dec 2016 Posts: 3,768 Likes: 1 Republic of Texas Originally Posted by mod7rem I have stacks of magazines going back years with JB articles. He’s also answered many of my questions in PM’s. Thanks John. If you don't have it, my personal favorite is the "Anything but bolts " article ( Handloader/Rifle?) if you can find a copy. I need to find another myself after loaning it so many times. Needs more tape to hold it together

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16854848 01/18/22 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,935 Michigan M1Garand Campfire Regular M1Garand Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,935 Michigan Yes, I enjoy your posts and the info you readily share!

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16857307 01/19/22 Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 12,664 West Virginia D Dave_in_WV Campfire Outfitter Dave_in_WV Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 12,664 West Virginia Thanks to John sharing his experiences and knowledge in optics and reloading I now load more accurate ammo and have made correct selections in scopes for my needs. The Karma bus always has an empty seat when it comes around.- High Brass There's battle lines being drawn Nobody's right if everybody's wrong

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16857339 01/19/22 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 38,919 Likes: 10 South of Minnesota 5sdad Campfire 'Bwana 5sdad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 38,919 Likes: 10 South of Minnesota Always trust what John has to say. Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile. Happily Trapped In the Past (Thanks, Joe) Not only a less than minimally educated person, but stupid and out of touch as well.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer 7mm_Loco #16857553 01/19/22 Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,301 Likes: 28 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... ironbender Campfire Oracle ironbender Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,301 Likes: 28 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... Originally Posted by 7mm_Loco ... Yes... Thank You MD... I have always considered this place as "OZ".. and Mule Deer the "Wizard"... Perhaps not. The wizard of oz was a phony! If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16857565 01/19/22 Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1,445 Likes: 1 Central NYS S shawlerbrook Campfire Regular shawlerbrook Campfire Regular S Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1,445 Likes: 1 Central NYS Another JB fan here !

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer ironbender #16857921 01/19/22 Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 2,454 Likes: 4 7 7mm_Loco Campfire Regular 7mm_Loco Campfire Regular 7 Joined: Mar 2021 Posts: 2,454 Likes: 4 Originally Posted by ironbender Originally Posted by 7mm_Loco ... Yes... Thank You MD... I have always considered this place as "OZ".. and Mule Deer the "Wizard"... Perhaps not. The wizard of oz was a phony! I did not know that as i never watched the the whole movie... Anyway, I meant it as the highest compliment!... Last edited by 7mm_Loco; 01/19/22.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16858511 01/19/22 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,174 Likes: 16 In the Swamps DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,174 Likes: 16 In the Swamps I am..........disturbed. Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer Ranger99 #16859087 01/19/22 Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 1,779 NC O OGB Campfire Regular OGB Campfire Regular O Joined: Jan 2021 Posts: 1,779 NC Originally Posted by Ranger99 Originally Posted by mod7rem I have stacks of magazines going back years with JB articles. He’s also answered many of my questions in PM’s. Thanks John. If you don't have it, my personal favorite is the "Anything but bolts " article ( Handloader/Rifle?) if you can find a copy. I need to find another myself after loaning it so many times. Needs more tape to hold it together Reminded of a article of his about "other bolt actions". Discussed the merits of a-bolts, rugers and CZs. Great one. Bore size is no substitute for shot placement and Power is no substitute for bullet performance. 458WIN

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16859145 01/19/22 Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,597 Northern Ca S sidepass Campfire Tracker sidepass Campfire Tracker S Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,597 Northern Ca It's comforting to know not everyone in the asylum is a patient. Never take life to seriously, after all ,no one gets out of it alive.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16859168 01/19/22 Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana Good to know how many like my articles--even if I can't remember some of the articles! Good hunting! John “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16859337 01/19/22 Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 867 Port Severn ont. Canada G GWPGUY Campfire Regular GWPGUY Campfire Regular G Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 867 Port Severn ont. Canada Evnin Yep no BS, honest tests no hedging, no everything shot over 600yr, like fresh air!!!!! Another one is Steve Tim in varmint hunter always go to his charts first and then read the article. Thanks a million, keeps most on here somewhat honest. Bill. 🐾👣🐾👣🇨🇦

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16859345 01/19/22 Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 17,740 Likes: 1 Michigan, In , Boon S saddlering Campfire Ranger saddlering Campfire Ranger S Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 17,740 Likes: 1 Michigan, In , Boon Have enjoyed your writing and books for years John, please Don't retire on us! Deer Camp! about as good as it gets!

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer Mule Deer #16860618 01/20/22 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,935 Michigan M1Garand Campfire Regular M1Garand Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,935 Michigan Originally Posted by Mule Deer Good to know how many like my articles--even if I can't remember some of the articles! Good hunting! John If you wrote it, it's an article I'm interested in reading. I appreciate your availability to answering questions members have as well.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer saddlesore #16862471 01/20/22 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,148 Likes: 7 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,148 Likes: 7 Colorado Originally Posted by saddlesore Yep,+2 Plus 3. Every time I've asked JB a question he's given me good information that's not available just anywhere. Even though I'm pretty sure he thinks I'm a dick. A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer smokepole #16862885 01/20/22 Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana HA HA! One thing I've been happy to do is answer questions asked by PM, because that often avoids dealing with the real dicks.... “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer Mule Deer #16862902 01/20/22 Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,003 Magnolia,TX D Deans Campfire Regular Deans Campfire Regular D Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,003 Magnolia,TX Originally Posted by Mule Deer HA HA! One thing I've been happy to do is answer questions asked by PM, because that often avoids dealing with the real dicks.... Yep ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~ “Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.” ISAIAH 41:10

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer Mule Deer #16862967 01/20/22 Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 17,281 Likes: 2 The Land of Cotton GeoW Campfire Ranger GeoW Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 17,281 Likes: 2 The Land of Cotton Yep, thanks for being here! "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson GeoW, The "Unwoke" ...Let's go Brandon! "A Well Regulated Militia" Life Member

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16862991 01/20/22 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 480 Australia L LowBC Campfire Member LowBC Campfire Member L Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 480 Australia I often refer to previous conversations and load recommendations, to the point of having some saved in a file. The information on the load data for 9.3x62 was amazing when I first bought one, and bang on too. Thanks MD from the other side of the world. Experience is something you get, just after you needed it.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer Mule Deer #16864612 01/21/22 Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,148 Likes: 7 Colorado S smokepole Campfire 'Bwana smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 46,148 Likes: 7 Colorado Originally Posted by Mule Deer HA HA! One thing I've been happy to do is answer questions asked by PM, because that often avoids dealing with the real dicks.... It's those Canadians Jordan and Dwayne again, isn't it? LOL. A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer 7mm_Loco #16866212 01/21/22 Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,301 Likes: 28 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... ironbender Campfire Oracle ironbender Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,301 Likes: 28 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... Originally Posted by 7mm_Loco Originally Posted by ironbender Originally Posted by 7mm_Loco ... Yes... Thank You MD... I have always considered this place as "OZ".. and Mule Deer the "Wizard"... Perhaps not. The wizard of oz was a phony! I did not know that as i never watched the the whole movie... Anyway, I meant it as the highest compliment!... I knew how it was intended. Just that JB ain’t a phony. Happy for your contributions John. If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16866290 01/21/22 Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,672 Oklahoma City S Son_of_the_Gael Campfire Tracker Son_of_the_Gael Campfire Tracker S Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,672 Oklahoma City John, it must have been around 30 years ago I read one of your articles in Rifle or Handloader, you commented that you had kept a detailed record of every game animal you had shot or seen shot. That made a big impression on me and I started watching for your articles and paying attention to them. I greatly appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge here. 'Four legs good, two legs baaaad." ---------------------------------------------- "Jimmy, some of it's magic, Some of it's tragic, But I had a good life all the way." (Jimmy Buffett) SotG

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16866379 01/21/22 Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 655 S Skatchewan Campfire Regular Skatchewan Campfire Regular S Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 655 I have always appreciated John's accessibility as well. Good guy, and a benefit to all of us.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16870536 01/22/22 Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,490 C Cascade Campfire Regular Cascade Campfire Regular C Joined: Nov 2018 Posts: 1,490 Yup. Agree. The stuff John B has taught me through his articles and books... I just picked up some more info on an article about setting up dies for straighter case necks & better accuracy... Stuff I sure didn't know. Thanks John, keep it up! You've got a loyal fan base here for sure. Regards, Guy

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16871132 01/22/22 Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 15,647 North Flint Hills O oldtrapper Campfire Ranger oldtrapper Campfire Ranger O Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 15,647 North Flint Hills Thanks JB, always solid info and gentlemanly delivery. https://postimg.cc/xXjW1cqx/81efa4c5 Soli Deo Gloria democrats ARE the plague.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16873976 01/23/22 Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 364 Christchurch, New Zealand G Geeman Campfire Member Geeman Campfire Member G Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 364 Christchurch, New Zealand I have been a member of the Fire for many years but rarely post. MD/JB has shown time and time again over the years that he is a true gentleman and when he posts I pay attention. Many, many years ago I was looking to purchase some good quality binos on a tight budget and on his recommendation I bought some for Doug at Cameraland - I am still using them and I just got back from a trip during which I used the binos plenty and remain grateful for the good advice. Thank you JB and to the others that have and continue to share their knowledge and experience (Scenarshooter, Dogzapper, Mackay Sagebrush etc.).

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16873998 01/23/22 Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,638 Maryland C cs2blue Campfire Regular cs2blue Campfire Regular C Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,638 Maryland DFQ's must make mule deer tired some days. I do not know how he does it ! He actually knows what he is talking about. Not just arm chair theory and BS.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer Sakoluvr #16874448 01/23/22 Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana Jeff_O Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 32,312 Wetter'n Oregon Originally Posted by Sakoluvr JB always makes himself available to share his life long experience. I have benefited from his knowledge many times. Thanks again JB This. Thanks John! The CENTER will hold. Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two FÜCK PUTIN!

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16887053 01/26/22 Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 54 Montana D deer1 Campfire Greenhorn deer1 Campfire Greenhorn D Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 54 Montana He is one of my favorite posters!

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer deer1 #16887341 01/26/22 Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana Thanks again, guys! Have learned many lessons from older gun writers over the years, including both Elmer Keith and Jack O'Connor. Both wrote from extensive personal experience, and while they disagreed about "adequate" cartridges, they also knew how to take the reader along on their hunts--which I suspect is at least as important as technical knowledge. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer Mule Deer #16887541 01/26/22 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 11,394 SW Missouri Cheesy Campfire Outfitter Cheesy Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 11,394 SW Missouri Thanks as the others have said. Originally Posted by Mule Deer That was right around 30 years ago. Craig Boddington was still editing the magazine then, and hired me. We'd already known each other for a decade! Just read in the newspaper today that my dads local gun club where we skeet shoot at is getting much of Craig Boddingtons trophies and other memorabilia for display as they convert an old downtown 3 story JC Penney store into a museum/store/indoor range. They’re excited about it. Not sure his connection to a Independence, KS but found it interesting to read today and then stumble in his mention in this thread.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer Cheesy #16887606 01/26/22 Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana Craig was born and raised in Kansas. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer Mule Deer #16887706 01/26/22 Joined: May 2008 Posts: 25,528 Likes: 4 Valhalla SE AK & WA A AcesNeights Campfire Ranger AcesNeights Campfire Ranger A Joined: May 2008 Posts: 25,528 Likes: 4 Valhalla SE AK & WA I too wish to convey my appreciation for your contributions here. The amount of technical knowledge that JB shares here is only outshined by his practical knowledge and “real world” experience. I also appreciate the decorum and patience he has with us. After answering the same questions a thousand times I’d expect a certain level of impatience or annoyance but he still politely answers the questions and freely shares his opinions and experience. John….thank you! You are a great asset to this motley group. 👍 �Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr. --------------------------------------------------------- ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16889114 01/27/22 Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,845 Big Sky Country TheBigSky Campfire Outfitter TheBigSky Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,845 Big Sky Country I'm not one to jump in on the usual "stroke the other campfire member" threads. However, I don't consider this one of those threads. It's not very often when someone in John's line of work takes the time to correspond regularly with the "regular guy". I for one, on a couple of occasions, have taken the opportunity to correspond with John. I can say that on each occurrence it was to my great benefit. What little I do know of John, he is a generally humble guy. I personally want to take the opportunity on this open public forum to say "Thank you John, you are a credit to your profession and to those of us who partake in our joint areas of interest". _________________________________________________________________________ “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16889327 01/27/22 Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,413 Mesa, AZ W Winchester21 Campfire Regular Winchester21 Campfire Regular W Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,413 Mesa, AZ Another BIG thanks to John (and Eileen). I have been a fan almost from the beginning. By the way, Rifles and Recipes is the best $10.00 you will ever spend. "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.” Patrick Henry

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer Winchester21 #16891194 01/27/22 Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana Originally Posted by Winchester21 Another BIG thanks to John (and Eileen). I have been a fan almost from the beginning. By the way, Rifles and Recipes is the best $10.00 you will ever spend. Thanks! But am guessing you meant a $10 yearly subscription to Rifle Loony News. Have been working for the past week on my articles for the May edition, which have so far been approved by the editor-in-chief. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16891262 01/27/22 Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,032 Likes: 4 NW Oregon B bowmanh Campfire Tracker bowmanh Campfire Tracker B Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,032 Likes: 4 NW Oregon I too have benefitted greatly from the knowledge that John shares! It's been a real help to me, especially in improving my reloading skills.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16892734 01/28/22 Joined: Apr 2021 Posts: 50 E elephantrider Campfire Greenhorn elephantrider Campfire Greenhorn E Joined: Apr 2021 Posts: 50 Your Knowledge and the time you impact here are forever appreciated. Many thanks, Muley.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16893863 01/28/22 Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,776 South Dakota S stantdm Campfire Regular stantdm Campfire Regular S Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,776 South Dakota Between John and Eileen I am a better shot and eat at a much better level. Can't thank them enough.

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16901161 01/30/22 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 302 P philthygeezer Campfire Member philthygeezer Campfire Member P Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 302 Ditto!

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer stantdm #16903657 01/30/22 Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,177 Likes: 20 Banana Belt, Montana Originally Posted by stantdm Between John and Eileen I am a better shot and eat at a much better level. Can't thank them enough. Thanks very much from both of us! Can we quote you on that? “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16911378 02/01/22 Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,138 Arizona jmp300wsm Campfire Tracker jmp300wsm Campfire Tracker Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,138 Arizona Just reupped my subscription as well. Much enjoy it! If you find yourself in a hole....quit digging

Re: Thanks To Mule Deer jwp475 #16912302 02/02/22 Joined: Aug 2020 Posts: 780 Chunchula AL C Cluggins Campfire Regular Cluggins Campfire Regular C Joined: Aug 2020 Posts: 780 Chunchula AL Originally Posted by jwp475 Even as rude as some posters are. . I too appreciate MDs contributions here, but it's rich for you to refer to other posters as rude.