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hanco, Thats a great pic. the smile on her face is priceless.

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I would go 6.5 Creed - subtly more recoil than a .243. Many, many factory ammo options beyond a 7-08, many rifle options beyond the 7-08 & scary accurate out of the box equals a 7-08 in same rifles.

I’ve pushed this easy button twice and couldn’t be more happy that I did & and I’m a stubborn Dane! Took me 13 years to try it. Just bought a T3x for my youngest daughter to fiddle with once she masters the 222. Of course I’ll be making sure it’s OK till she’s ready 😜

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Originally Posted by jc189
But when she steps up to a hi powered rifle it will have a muzzle brake on it. I think they are less likely to develop a flinch this way. .


You must really hate the kid. Get her a suppressor, rather than a brake. Nothing induces flinching like the concussion of a brake.......

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Yea your right a suppressor would be even better. But with good hearing protection a brake has never been a problem, only to who ever is standing on either side lol.

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Either one with a suppressor is pressing the easy button


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6.5CM has recoil closer to 243 than 7-08. At least where I live ammo is a lot cheaper and easier to find.


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Originally Posted by JMR40
6.5CM has recoil closer to 243 than 7-08. At least where I live ammo is a lot cheaper and easier to find.

It's closer to the 7-08 than .243 with commonly used hunting loads, but rifle fit and weight can make a big difference.

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Don't know how supplies are in Calgary Jordan but around here in South Dakota jmr40 hit it on the nail head as far as availibility goes.
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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
Don't know how supplies are in Calgary Jordan but around here in South Dakota jmr40 hit it on the nail head as far as availibility goes.
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Same for around here. I was responding to the recoil comment.

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I happen to favor 7mm-08, but I don't think you could go wrong with either.


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Only two pages so far....?

Last Creed/7-08 thread went around 18 pages, still cranking last time I looked.

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Originally Posted by ndh19
My granddaughter is 11 yr old and wants to deer hunt. She has only shot a bb gun before. Just based on recoil would either caliber be better. We have our own shooting range and I reload so ammo or practice is not a issue. I have a creed but would be willing (thanks grandma) to buy a 7mm as a maybe lighter weight option.


Since you already have the Creedmoor I'd go that route. Same situation comparing 6.5 Creedmoor / .260 / 6.5x55 vs 7mm-08 as with comparing 7mm-08 vs .308. If you have either one working well there's not a lot of point in buying the other. It's not 'til you start trying to do something neither is ideal for that you see much separation between them, for their best uses they're functionally equal.

One plus to the Creedmoor .. you can load light 100 grain partitions .. or even ballistic tips .. to modest speed and have a pretty solid killer without a lot of recoil.

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My humble suggestion would be a .243. My late uncle was a.gun nut deluxe after wwii. Had an 8mm/06 on a beautiful commercial mauser brought back from germany. He also had a .257 Rogers 40° improved. As be got older he sold both and used a scoped .243 for his northern Minnesota deer hunting. Said he didn't need anything more.

Depending on the size of the kids, there may be a few youth models.around for a better fit.

Good luck, and it's great of you to pass down the love of shooting and hunting.


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Originally Posted by JPro
They are practically two peas in a pod. I'd go with whichever chambering in which you can find a suitable rifle. I believe the 6.5CM currently has the edge for rifle and ammo offerings/availability.

In any event, I'd start with some really light loads, like Blue Dot or Trail Boss and some plinker bullets. My kids liked the 260 and 7mm-08 with those powders and light Sierra HP bullets. After that, they graduated to H4198 loads with hunting bullets.


^^this...

I have both and they both work very well for what you are wanting to do

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I recently bought a Creedmoor from a member on here. For my daughters, I purchased some 140 grain HSM reduced recoil ammo. 100 yard shot on a 2.5 year old Alabama buck entered just at the leg/shoulder bone about 1/3 up the body and exited a quarter size hole opposite center shoulder. Caught bone going in and bone going out. Needless to say, I was very impressed.

For bigger whitetails like in Wisconsin, I would not shoot light bullets in any caliber unless it’s open farmland or wood lots where sight tracking or snow potentially may aid in blood trailing. Down here in the thick South, I want an entrance hole…..and an exit.

I’m not sure what the rifle will do with other ammo, but this browning micro Midas x bolt combo with this ammo is the most accurate rifle I’ve likely ever shot. That being said, when I say accurate, I can prop up on a bag and shoot nickel size dots on a target at 100 yards. No sled, just propped up.

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I have both and it'd likely come down to rifle preference over chambering - especially for a reloader.



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For bigger whitetails like in Wisconsin, I would not shoot light bullets in any caliber unless it’s open farmland or wood lots where sight tracking or snow potentially may aid in blood trailing. Down here in the thick South, I want an entrance hole…..and an exit.


Well, I reckon I've been doing it wrong. blush
I've yet to catch a light bullet in a deer here (WI).


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I think “light bullet” needs further designation as to what type.

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The rifle is more important than the cartridge in this scenario.


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The correct answer is to own at least one of each. Thank me later. grin

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
The correct answer is to own at least one of each. Thank me later. grin



Correct answer!

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