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I agree seems to be a lack of sporter weight 223s
The heavy barrel ones are common
Don’t really look for them much as I have a 223 zitel get lots of use

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39 years ago, I owned and shot a lot a very accurate Ruger No. 3 single shot. Lord, I wish I still had that one………


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Originally Posted by beretzs
Nice. I could probably step on it a little I guess if I wanted. Thanks for the heads up.


My .223AI 75 gr load is 280 fps faster than yours.

My 22 Creed is only 370 fps faster than my .223AI load.

Step on it a little my friend. smile


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Originally Posted by beretzs
Nice. I could probably step on it a little I guess if I wanted. Thanks for the heads up.


My .223AI 75 gr load is 280 fps faster than yours.

My 22 Creed is only 370 fps faster than my .223AI load.

Step on it a little my friend. smile



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Any idea why these rifles are non existent from any manufacturer out there ?


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CZ makes them I believe


I have a model 527 and that mini Mauser is a sweet shooter.


I've got the cz 527 with the full length stock super cool!!!!!!!!

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LGS has a Howa mini in 223 with a 1-8 twist skinny barrel. Stock sucks and mag sucks, but it is calling my name over and over. Don’t think I can resist much longer.

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If you can find one you better go get it if funds allow.

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I have a Ruger American Ranch Rifle in .223. Accurate enough and fun to shoot.


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
I have a Ruger American Ranch Rifle in .223. Accurate enough and fun to shoot.


I had a compact RAR in .223. It was fun. I'd get another not in compact if I can find one


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I got a Savage 110E that I've had since '90.


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I have rebarreled to 223 in bolt actions:
1972 Sav 110
Stevens 200 [sav 110 old parts getting used up at the factory]
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I wanted a 223 bolt and found this little Sako a1 L461 made in 1979. Was unfired. Paid 1300 for the gun and put on the scope. fantastic trigger. Shoots better than I can. They can be found if you hunt around but 223 is rare. Most were in 222

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I bought my girlfriend a Savage Axis left hand, youth model with a 20" barrel. Rough, and the ejection is spotty but its a pretty consistent just below an inch shooter, better with a load it likes. Cheap Hornady 55 gr SP shoots into about 1.2 inches.


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I think that by ‘79, the .223s were more common. I bought one in ‘73 ($257!) and mounted a Lyman All American 8X. Foolishly traded it for something that was gone in short order.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
I think that by ‘79, the .223s were more common. I bought one in ‘73 ($257!) and mounted a Lyman All American 8X. Foolishly traded it for something that was gone in short order.



With the availability and cost of ammo, one might see them becoming more popular for shooting/hunting. Can kill any deer with them now that we have better bullets.Thats why I bought that Sako.

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IMO the Kimber .223 is the best form factor for the .223. Like a little mini Model 70. CRF and easy scope mounting. Easier than the 527 I used to own.

Did the 84M not sell in .223?

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Bergara made a special run on these. Compact and stout! I shopped forever. Couldn't find one I really liked till Bergara anwered my prayer. It has a Trigger Tech Primary, I will replece it with a Diamond and add a small pic rail to forend..

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I can see production numbers being low, manufacturers figuring most "regular" purchasers who buy a .223 are buying ARs. "Long range" is the craze in rifles sales, so .223 is out in the cold there. Only varmint hunters and like want .223 bolt guns these days?? Dunno.

I'd like a Steyr Scout in .223 but I'm not willing to pay the going rate.

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Originally Posted by Buzzaw
Bergara made a special run on these. Compact and stout! I shopped forever. Couldn't find one I really liked till Bergara anwered my prayer. It has a Trigger Tech Primary, I will replece it with a Diamond and add a small pic rail to forend..

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Yep. Sweet rifles. I have one. Shoots great with 75gr ELD's and Lever

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