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I don’t disagree there.

To be honest I’m not as rooted in my Christianity as I was raised to be. I still see it as something that taught me about sacrifice, self control, hard work, mental and physical toughness, loyalty to family, honor, and an identity and something to aspire to. I’m not a fan nor do I believe in the weak branded stuff that a lot of people pass off as being a Christian. That isn’t how I was raised and isn’t within keeping of the Bible’s teachings IMO. Regardless of exact beliefs I think the Bible gives a great framework for how to have a high functioning society and a long and fruitful life.

One would think that would be easy to understand.

Sounds like the America they taught us about in school in the 80's.

This has been a good and interesting thread.
The Christian values are good and something to aspire to.... but many organized religions have been hi-jacked by charlatans perusing money and power

jackmountains’ post specifically mentioned “organized religion.” Religion and politics clearly don’t mix very well. Most of the Founder’s may have believed in God, but they also believed in the rightness of separation of church and state, and they most certainly didn’t believe that there should be a state religion. They were all about freedom of religion and freedom from religion. “Freedom” was the operative word for the Founder’s.

You're a drama queen also. The only reason you started thread, like about 90% of your threads, is to feed your addiction to conflict. Then your little girlfriend comes to your rescue, bitching about how many people posted to the thread, while he proceeded to post about a half dozen more replies. Both of you should get on estrogen therapy before the hot flashes drive you nuts.

Your statement is profoundly inaccurate.

How so?

That's some funny stuff right there

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-Clark

Agreed. Christianity in particular. When organized religion becomes the most important thing, it flexes its muscles at the expense of some of the very things that are the center of the center of the center of what Jesus taught. Organized religion and ‘religious’ people have given us the phrases “Holy wars,” “child sacrifice,” “honor killings;” and it was ‘religious’ people who were members of organized religion who cried out “Crucify him…! Crucify him…! Crucify him…!”

Nowhere is the reference to “separation of church and state” mentioned in the Constitution or any other government document. This is an over used phrase coined by an individual or individuals to confound the true assertion by our founding fathers who unilaterally recognized the power of God secures our freedom, not a group or organization.

The rest of my referenced post that you cut off…..“and they most certainly didn’t believe that there should be a state religion. They were all about freedom ‘of’ religion and freedom ‘from’ religion. “Freedom” was the operative word for the Founder’s.”

The Bill of Rights (the first Ten Amendments to the Constitution) was ratified by the Founder’s in 1791, and states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

Meaning that there should not be a crown killing Catholics in the name of Christianity or vice versa. They were not against any expression of faith. On the contrary they felt it was necessary to a free republic.

Judeo / Christian Values.

The most effective scam ever run on the Western Civilization.

Matthew 11:12 -

From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful men lay hold of it.

Meaning that the Founder’s thought it necessary to prohibit the government from making any law “respecting an establishment of religion.” This clause not only forbids the government from establishing an official religion, but also prohibits government actions that unduly favor one religion over another.

Joe Rogan is a midget. I don't like his stand up comedy. His podcast is ok (the Dorian Yates episode was good), but most of the time it's obvious he knows little about most topics he speaks about. I wish he would stop talking about hunting. We need less rogan lovers in the field.

He is really good at calling ufc fights. If anyone casts a vote for an elected representative based off of "what would rogan do", they are retarded.

That is all.

Bingo. Look for tone modification and avoidance of subject matter.

A recent Gem from Rogan.

"Elk aren't very smart and easy to hunt"


It has nothing to do with Rogan and his backwards politics , but has more to do with his platform and access to some of his guests and their views..

After the recent nagger word fest scandal look for Joe to have on more second tier comedians and boring guests