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This is from my experience playing with 22 rimfires at longer ranges.
If you want to shoot a 22 rimfire longer ranges using a BDC, make sure you get one with a Christmas Tree on the drops and that Christmas Tree has standard measurements in it. Matching drops to a BDC reticle with a rimfire is workable....windage gets tough. Second focal plane makes it tougher but if you're only going to do it at the highest power it can be done. I know you said you don't want to dial but dialing elevation and holding wind is much easier to determine how much you missed by and correct than using a non-standard BDC with a Christmas Tree reticle.....without a Christmas Tree and holding off windage on a non-measurable BDC is not a good formula. Parallax is helpful, especially with a rimfire on small game.
In typical campfire fashion, I'll tell you that you don't want what you want....grin.... What you want is:
FFP Measured reticle that matches the adjustments in mil or moa....not different. 1/2 mil hashes are nice with a rimfire Christmas tree reticle if you don't dial....but you really want to dial elevation Parallax adjustment
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Whats the parallax on the creedo?it says fixed in the 3-9
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The creedo has NO parallax adjustment. That ruins it for run fire use
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Athlon scopes are about the best bang for the buck you can find. Hawke also makes a series of .22 scopes with reticles that are calibrated for SV, HV, and I believe WMR ammo...
However, shooting to 200 yards with a reticle to match so you can see your target needs a lot of power for small game. I like a 6.5 - 20 or something in that range. Burris Fullfield, Weaver V24 ( 6-24), or the SWFA SS I figured you would have said Weaver v16... BSA, I would have, but the condition of it needing to see small targets out to 200 yards made the V24 a candidate, though the V16 would also be workable for some people...
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The creedo has NO parallax adjustment. That ruins it for run fire use What is the maximum parallax error someone could eek out of a 150 yard fixed parallax 3-9x40 at distances out to 250 yards?
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Putting this on a tikka t1x 16 inch 22 that will be primarily a hunting gun. I am curious what you are planning to hunt with a 22 LR at 200 yds? You do realize that at that distance it only has 68 ft lbs of energy which is not enough to assure a clean kill on anything much larger than a field mouse. drover
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Im not,its PRIMARILY a hunting gun but i would like to do some bench shooting etc from time to time.
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Im not,its PRIMARILY a hunting gun but i would like to do some bench shooting etc from time to time. Got it - I read your original post as meaning you were going to use it as a hunting gun out to 200 yards. drover
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I have old, Japanese made, Weaver V16/CV16 4-16x42AOs on a variety rimfire and centerfire rifles chambered in 17HM2, 17HMR, .22LR, , 204, 223, 22-250, 243, and 6.5 CM.
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I have old, Japanese made, Weaver V16/CV16 4-16x42AOs on a variety rimfire and centerfire rifles chambered in 17HM2, 17HMR, .22LR, , 204, 223, 22-250, 243, and 6.5 CM. None of which meet the criteria the OP wants...
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I like the trijicon but the paralax isn’t adjustable. I have a accupoint 3x9x40 on my 30/06 mountain rifle and love it.
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I have old, Japanese made, Weaver V16/CV16 4-16x42AOs on a variety rimfire and centerfire rifles chambered in 17HM2, 17HMR, .22LR, , 204, 223, 22-250, 243, and 6.5 CM. None of which meet the criteria the OP wants... You can't hit whatever you're aiming at at 200 yards with a 4-16x scope?
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The creedo has NO parallax adjustment. That ruins it for run fire use What is the maximum parallax error someone could eek out of a 150 yard fixed parallax 3-9x40 at distances out to 250 yards? The close shots won't have a focused reticle
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I have old, Japanese made, Weaver V16/CV16 4-16x42AOs on a variety rimfire and centerfire rifles chambered in 17HM2, 17HMR, .22LR, , 204, 223, 22-250, 243, and 6.5 CM. None of which meet the criteria the OP wants... You can't hit whatever you're aiming at at 200 yards with a 4-16x scope? Not what the OP asked, simple.
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Im not,its PRIMARILY a hunting gun but i would like to do some bench shooting etc from time to time. When I go to the 400 yard range, I see a lot of 22lr casings laying on the cement pad. I guess its a fad these days.. I've killed yotes at 150 yards with yellow jackets, but that's about as far as I'd trust a 22lr. Accuracy goes downhill after 200 and so does killing power. To each their own though. Do you have a good centerfire to shoot out past 200? I have old, Japanese made, Weaver V16/CV16 4-16x42AOs on a variety rimfire and centerfire rifles chambered in 17HM2, 17HMR, .22LR, , 204, 223, 22-250, 243, and 6.5 CM. None of which meet the criteria the OP wants... I damn sure wouldn't underestimate the V16 4-16. It's a great scope and can easily handle 200 yards. The only thing I wouldn't like is its not a scope you can readily dial. Lets get real here guys. Its a damn 22lr. A rimfire specific scope like the Bushnell rimfire 6-18x40 with the 22lr turret would work just fine for the op's needs. The turret is calibrated for CCI mini mag ammo or similar at or around 1,260 fps. No need to make it complicated. The op isn't silhouette shooting rabbits at 600 yards or competing in PRS..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Im not,its PRIMARILY a hunting gun but i would like to do some bench shooting etc from time to time. When I go to the 400 yard range, I see a lot of 22lr casings laying on the cement pad. I guess its a fad these days.. I've killed yotes at 150 yards with yellow jackets, but that's about as far as I'd trust a 22lr. Accuracy goes downhill after 200 and so does killing power. To each their own though. Do you have a good centerfire to shoot out past 200? I have old, Japanese made, Weaver V16/CV16 4-16x42AOs on a variety rimfire and centerfire rifles chambered in 17HM2, 17HMR, .22LR, , 204, 223, 22-250, 243, and 6.5 CM. None of which meet the criteria the OP wants... I damn sure wouldn't underestimate the V16 4-16. It's a great scope and can easily handle 200 yards. The only thing I wouldn't like is its not a scope you can readily dial. Lets get real here guys. Its a damn 22lr. A rimfire specific scope like the Bushnell rimfire 6-18x40 with the 22lr turret would work just fine for the op's needs. The turret is calibrated for CCI mini mag ammo or similar at or around 1,260 fps. No need to make it complicated. The op isn't silhouette shooting rabbits at 600 yards or competing in PRS.. No question on the Weaver as I have owned them. But the OP is looking for something specifically different. My most recent buys for my last couple of rimfires have been these. Again not meeting the OP's request but I am more than pleased so far. https://www.eurooptic.com/vortex-di...e-with-v-plex-reticle-moa-dbk-10017.aspx
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Not that anyone has to justify why they want what they want but.
We have a lot of those black headed buzzards around here. They can be pretty aggressive and gang up on small animals or young animals. A friend does his best to keep them away from his cattle during calving time which is now. Avery good way to kill them he has found is shooting them from 2-300 yards away with a 22. He uses a good scope that dials correctly and doesn’t have any trouble. The 22 doesn’t scare them away as bad or often as something bigger/louder.
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If you can afford it, a 3-12 LRHS would be a fantastic choice but if you'd like to spend less $$ I'd also recommend the Tract 3-9 BDC. I mounted one on a Volquartsen Summit 22lr and had it out again today plinking my steel targets from 50-125 yards with ease. It's zeroed at 14/60 yards and is SFP so the subtensions will change when you zoom but they're still very handy....
9x Zero - 14/60 S1 - 73 S2 - 87 S3 - 103 S4 - 122 Post - 151
6x Zero - 14/60 S1 - 78 S2 - 100 S3 - 122 S4 - 150 Post - 189
3x Zero - 14/60 S1 - 96 S2 - 135 S3 - 175 S4 - 223 Post - 291
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I had a swfa 12x ss moaquad on a savage mkii btv to play the NRL steel game. Having the moa hash for wind/elv was very useful as i had cumup data chart onboard for 30-100 yard swingers.
12x might be more than needed for hunting, maybe the ss 6x moaquad.
Only reason I use the moaquad is I don't want to learn the mil system, just lazy.
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Thanks for putting that up. I looked at the 4-12x40 Tract rimfire scope but passed due to the 75 yard parallax. Just noticed the 3-9x40 Tract rimfire has a 50 yard parallax so I'm thinking this will be my next rimfire optic! Don't get too hung up on parallax. When you plug data into a parallax calculator to get maximum parallax error, you'll see that it's of little consequence to anyone other than a serious or competition target shooter. You have to assume a horrible position to induce maximum parallax, so most of the time your error would be less than that shown on the table. For your stated purposes, the 75 yard fixed parallax would serve you better than 50. In fact, a fixed 150 yard parallax would serve you better than a fixed 50 once you start stretching things out. https://www.lelandwest.com/parallax-error-calculator.cfm
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