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I voted for Combo # 5. Aesthetically pleasing, plentifully potent, and relatively easy on the shoulder.

Nice work Sir Ron, looks like #7 is my combo, will be GREAT to see what they all do to the Iron WaterBoard Buffalo.

I would think combo #4 could work for me!

And yeah, the State of the Union was such a friggin farce. He is a scumbag of the first order.

Didn't watch, if i want similar, i can always walk out the back yard gate and sleep on my belly face down in a fresh pile of usurping grand larceny BULLCHIT!

You’d have slept better than me as well Gunner.

You bet Big Buddy, they broke something in my head with the greatest theft in the history of the world, i trust no dept/agency/office anymore, and no longer a friend to any.

The distrust of the government has to be pretty high.

It’s tough being a minority these days with a job and paying taxes into the system. I believe there are a lot more voters who probably depend on our taxes for the handout than we even realize.

Diesel is nearly 4.00 a gallon right now. That just sets me off a bit more as well

I would agree Sir Ron on cutting the 500 Nosler Solid down to 400 grains. Paired up in the shell belt with the 404 SH, a magnificent 458WM swinging along in the hand, we can go forth and harvest anything, anywhere. If the Barnes 450 banded solid was still available that would work nicely too.

Sir Dennis,
You have described Selous Combo #8.
That would be for a stock standard factory .458 WinMag.
400-gr brass FN loaded to 3.340" COL @ 2400 fps MV in a 24" barrel for charge stopper,
plus the 404g Shock Hammer at 2400 to 2500 fps and COL of 3.280" to 3.480" for Sheep, Hippo and Varmints.
The longer COL will single-shot load.
Two rifles in one.
A magazine repeater and a single shot.

Lots to do.
Sir Tony's red & yellow box WINCHESTER SUPER SPEED .458 WinMag ammo (500 gr FMJ)
shall be fired through the chrono and dissected for posterity.
The Iron WaterBoard Buffalo will be saddled up again.
500-gr brass FN bullets shall be cut down to 400-grainers, etc.

But first I have to attend to funeral affairs for a few days.
Wife's Mother, my MIL, passed on at age 94, yesterday,
I spent most of the day yesterday with my Mother getting a stent placed in one of her renal arteries.
Much Old Lady business to attend to. None of us would be here without them.
In a few days I will be back with a vengeance for Lottites and Democrats.

Sir Ron. 🙏🙏🙏

God Bless!!!!!!

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I’d better get up to speed on this thread. Have a Classic Mod 70 458WM inbound. My second, regret selling the first!

Some great reading here, thank you gentlemen!

Bless you in the reverent duties Sir Ron.

Thank you all, Kind Sirs of the .458 Brotherhood.
It appears that my dearly beloved 94 y.o. Mother-In-Law died sooner than she should have,
and suffered terribly due to a stupid medication error by a doctor who claimed he had never done such in 36 years in practice.
I am recommending lawyering up, because I surely would not have skated on something like that while I was practicing.
My wife was planning to spend a couple of weeks with her Mother starting just three days before it happened.
She has been robbed. It was a tear jerker all around.
She is still in Florida, but I am back with a vengeance, for MIL and the .458 WinMag.

The ammo that Sir Tony contributed to this trail was produced when MIL was 30 years old, and my wife was 8 months old.
I examined it and fired 5 rounds of it at the range today. Excellent findings for +64 y.o. factory ammo.
I also had on hand some 38 y.o. and 26 y.o. factory ammo for the .458 WM, all from W-W.
The oldest stuff was best, and thanks again to Sir Tony for keeping it well preserved.
If I can find a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle I'll get it to him, or I might settle for something cheaper, if he will. LOL.

No caking of powders, no loose bullets glued into the case necks.
Primer sealant debris on the 1983 stuff is very peculiar. Sumbuddy who know what that could be ?
Democrat Party boogers is all I can call it.







The rifle was The Alder Queen, Alderella Ruger-Shilen, M77 MK II with old Nikon SlugHunter scope with BDC reticle.
She was left as sighted for dead on at 100 yards with the Buffalo Bore 400-gr TSX at about 2350 fps, 25" barrel.
Same as what killed the pedophile buck chasing the tiny doe this past deer season here.
The targets below were at 50 yards.

Spotted at a gun show, 7 rifles purchased from a widow in Michigan.
The deceased was related to the original Hoffman of Hoffman Arms, who employed James Howe, who made the original 400 Whelen in 1923 for Townie,
as well as Elmer Keith's 400 Whelen in 1924.
The very interesting fellow wearing the ostrich boots said he bought all seven of these rifles from the widow for $50,000.00,
yes, 50K bucks.
He will be showing them in Tulsa on April 2, 2022.

That 6.5 M-S reminds me of two more Selous Combos.
One rifle two loads, why carry two rifles when a single .458 WM will do it all, from varmints and sheep to hippopotami:

One more, that will require development of the Ultimate 400-gr Copper Head Hammer FN solid:



I have a concept drawing for that 400-gr/.458 Copper FN solid to be propelled at 2500 fps for whaling ...