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Cue the "just let the junkies die" chorus. No problem w/that. Unfortunately, first responders seem to be at risk now. Probably not. A first responder will not resuscitate without a barrier in place. Blood borne pathogens, you know. Resuscitate? Oh so mouth to mouth is the only way to come in contact with fentanyl? Go buy a clue..
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i knew a guy who OD'd on fentanyl laced coke. young guy, good hard working dude but liked to party. bought it from some unknown dude at a casino. had it not been for his fellow firefighters and a shot of narcan, he would have died. its not all junkies doing this schit. sometimes its just people who like to party too hardy. no judgement from me either way because i grew up kind of wild. glad i got that schit out of my system 40+ years ago. you can't do any illicit drugs anymore with this fentanyl schit everywhere. people who knowingly sell that schit need to spend a long stretch in the graybar hotel. Rem, think about your post. Junkies aren't somebody you don't know. That's the self-righteous ideal of the "..let em die" crowd. Junkies are nitwits who use "junk". Knowingly using that crap to "party"? You are a junky. Maybe a 3rd grader. But headed toward 6th grade level, functional addiction. (He may have been there and you didn't know) And unless one stops, graduation (death or prison) is in the future.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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Can someone confirm that a person employing mouth-to-mouth resuscitation can receive a toxic dose of fentanyl from the victim? Tony had good coke!!! 🥴😕😕😆😆😆
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Looks to me as though there needs to be a review of how West point, Annaopolis, and Colorado Springs appointments are doled out. Political correct screenings. Friend of mine, high ranking military retiree, was on his congressman’s selection committee for appointments to the federal academies for several years. He finally gave up after it became obvious that the appointments all went to the children of political supporters regardless of the committee’s recommendations. One more way the filthy political class uses our tax dollars to buy support and pay back donations. Around here conventional wisdom is that he federal academies are just repositories for the scions of the political class who wouldn’t be able to hack it at real military colleges like VMI or The Citadel.
Mathew 22: 37-39
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Saw a blurb somewhere where a cop opened a trunk that was full of fentanyl and was overcome by just the fumes. Paramedics brought him back. Thank the Chico's and the cartels for doing their dirty work but but the Climate is the most important thing facing us. Don't blame this incident on the cartels. You buy a 1000cc sportbike, drive a back country road at 150mph, it ain't Grannys fault you end up "road pizza" when she pulls out with you 300yds away around the corner. These nitwits decided to run way faster than good sense allows. As bad as the cartels are, they are only part cause. They are also part symptom. Without the demand, they wouldn't exist. Demand is also symptom and cause. The cartels are only cause in that they are so efficient that they have increases supply and pushed price down. Ain't no one making anyone take this stuff.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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I bet the "resuscitators" got crabs from a toilet seat one time...
I am MAGA.
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Saw a blurb somewhere where a cop opened a trunk that was full of fentanyl and was overcome by just the fumes. Paramedics brought him back. Thank the Chico's and the cartels for doing their dirty work but but the Climate is the most important thing facing us. Don't blame this incident on the cartels. You buy a 1000cc sportbike, drive a back country road at 150mph, it ain't Grannys fault you end up "road pizza" when she pulls out with you 300yds away around the corner. These nitwits decided to run way faster than good sense allows. As bad as the cartels are, they are only part cause. They are also part symptom. Without the demand, they wouldn't exist. Demand is also symptom and cause. The cartels are only cause in that they are so efficient that they have increases supply and pushed price down. Ain't no one making anyone take this stuff. This ^^^^^^^^^^ in spades. Just like it’s not a gunmaker’s fault when some bozo misuses their product. It’s called personal responsibility.
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[ You damn right athletes at the academies are treated differently. My roommate while I was at West Point was a "recruited" football player. He had to attend the WPPS (West Point Preparatory School) in order to get his academics up to standard to attend West Point. Look at the football roster at West Point and notice how many of the kids list WPPS as their prep/high school.
ALL of the cadets are Congressional "nominees" - each congressman nominates a certain number (used to be 5) to each academy, but they still have to compete against one another and have a minimal SAT/ACT score to attend. Just because you're nominated doesn't mean you will be accepted. There are also presidential and vice presidential nominations.
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I don't care what level of society they come from. If people decide to destroy their lives, their careers or end their life with the use of drugs, (and every dose is a choice) they get no sympathy from me.
And yes, I was a stupid college kid fresh off the farm at one time. But I had brains enough to refuse offers of dope of many kinds.
That’s where I’m at on this, they did it to themselves. A path I consciously avoided tho I sure got drunk a lot. I would give them Narcan.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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Well I will add a little. This thoroughly disgusts me. I worked at West Point twice. They are in the military. They know they aren't to use drugs. They know there is drug testing. And these are supposed to be the cream of the crop? Disgusts me.
Number two, yes I believe the mouth to mouth givers got it from rendering first aid. The police and first reponders found out that they were OD'ing from touching the victims. They started saving the Narcan for themselves.
I say save the Narcan for the first responders. You play dumb games you get dumb results.
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Cadets remain "unidentified". Two were on the football team. Betting they're Norwegian.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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Looks to me as though there needs to be a review of how West point, Annaopolis, and Colorado Springs appointments are doled out. Recreational drug use was a thing way back when I was at West Point in the 80's. USMA cadets should be held to higher standards, and they should hold themselves to those standards also. Some do, some don't. I was disappointed, and disillusioned, at what I saw some cadets do and get away with. I was at the Naval Academy in the late 80s and I didn't know a single person that did any drugs, even weed, and if they did, there was zero tolerance and they'd be gone same day.
Progressives are the most open minded, tolerant, and inclusive people on the planet, as long as you agree with everything they say, and do exactly as you're told.
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This does not surprise me one bit given the current state of our “leadership”, their policies and the examples they set.
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What happens when our enemies start lacing our food supply chain with this schitt?
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I don’t advocate the use , don’t feel sorry for them , just pointing out it is a fact of life in everyone’s lives . Not meaning that you are a doper , but you can bet your azz someone close to you has at least experimented with the shiet . Have seen fools flush a career over dope , reminds me of the idiots that win the lottery and then go buy a boat load of dope and go to prison when they had the world in their hands .
Support the cartels ? What you figure they had ? An eight ball , maybe . Give me a fugging break , everybody that drinks a beer or shot should be stripped of their DL cause the MFer is a full blown drunk . Figure it was a let’s get loose night , dumbazzes that honk the shiet everyday are soon found out . As far as discipline goes , depends who’s their parents . Hunter being a perfect example . That’s another factor that plays into every level of society . Have been around this shiet at work and immediate family , everyday users and drinkers can’t hide it unless you got your head buried . I don’t look at the world through rose colored glass . Kenneth
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The Campfire Temperance League strikes again.
Sic em girls
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The Academies have changed. There was a time when there were officer cadets who also played football. Today, there are football players who are also cadets - with no intention of ever being military officers. The genuine officers graduate and start their military careers. Not the football players. They get "deferred" for several years to join the NFL, and then - supposedly - serve a few years in the military. Not that it ever happens, probably.
It's deplorable. Worse, it results in events just like this, where the players develop the NFL mentality early: thugs on drugs.
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I bet the tough guys here would be begging me to save their grandkids if they were od'ing.
No no...supposed to just let them die.
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Let em go. Too many dumbasses in this world. Relatives or not, dont care.
Academy....expected better judgement.
No sympathy.
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