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Anyone who believes Happy Camper must be mentally ill. Very good point!!!
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It is our problem that is why we imposed sanctions.
So let me make sure I get this and please correct me if I’m wrong (I mean that sincerely) in my assumptions about where we agree. 1) Biden is not a duly elected President but is a deteriorating codger who has been used by the ruling elites to gain power with some small degree of plausibility 2) His son helped him leverage his power to make money from foreign interests including in Ukraine 3) Biden’s people made strategic errors in offering Ukraine membership in NATO making Russia nervous like we would be if Mexico formed an alliance with China 4) Biden shut down domestic oil production, empowering Putin whose chief export is crude 5) Russia invaded Ukraine 6) the corp press who has been deceiving us and suppressing free speech while claiming to be Pro-America tells us we have to love Urakine and hate Russia or we’re anti-American 7) you believe Biden & the corp press and are all in to have Biden lead WWIII again Russia What’d I miss? Miss? How about common sense. I heard Soros hates dogs. I now hate dogs!! I heard Dick Cheney hunts. I'm never hunting again!! I heard Hunter Biden hates cats. I now love cats!! You get it? Comprendo? The democrats are corrupt, that does not force me to now love Putin and reject ordinary Ukrainians. It is an independent fact that that Putin is in fact a dangerous threat to world peace. We destroyed more countries since the cold war ended than Russia has,, The US is the warmongers except for Trump,, No fly zone? Thats a Red flag for Russia and a false flag event waiting to happen,, The ukrainian milt,will shoot it down if our own C_A doesnt 1st just to have an excuse to get some,,
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Is oldhat mentally ill or am I imagining things? It ain't just your imagination. Mentally ill, and dumber than a sack of hammers. Ignorant and more than a little short sighted also.... How so. Make your point? I mean I'm sure you can type more than 10 word half sentences. I could but your BS isn't worth the effort...
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My take.... no American boots on the ground (unless they want to go join up of course). If Putin follows his Aleppo/Grozny pattern, he’s gonna start leveling cities. It’s starting to look like that his only play here, since his ground forces are proving to be lame while the Ukrainians are proving to be highly effective and highly motivated.
Putin cannot “lose” without being dethroned, plus he’s just plain brutal, so he’ll do anything. Once the true civilian carnage starts I fear it’s gonna be hard to keep NATO planes out of Ukrainian airspace; in point of fact, Ukraine ain’t Russia, it’s Ukraine, so Russia has zero claim to that airspace anyway, and I expect that’ll be the basic argument. Where it goes from there, IDK. Could get really dangerous from a nukes perspective.
Biden is not blameless here, nor is Trump, but in fairness I don’t think this has much to do with either incompetent old fart. It’s a big world, and people are gonna do what they are gonna do. It’s not our job to just knee-jerk send the troops in, nor should we IMHO. On the flipside, we Americans have reaped many rewards from “pax Americana” since WW2 and it’s in our geopolitical interest to do what we can to help a strategically vital country that CLEARLY wants to be free.
So, it’s a game of finding that balancing point where we do what we can but without ground troops. I will say, I’m glad there’s an adult in the WH who trusts and engages with the Pentagon & IC and listens to them. If ever there was one to handle by committee, it’s this one.
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No one here cares what your take is you bong smoking liberal piece of crap!!!
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When are all you hard asses going to join up? Thousands of foreigners have gone over to fight why haven’t you? If this is so important to you then get on a plain and go get it done. Or are you just cowards talking out of your backsides on the internet? Oh no, I'll do you one better. I say we enforce a no fly zone, according to everyone here that will put me in far more danger than being in Ukraine. Who’s WE? Why should WE enforce anything? WE are not the world police force. Please let me know when WE are in danger because until WE are it’s just conjecture and MSM BS! Putin just threatened us with Nuclear war. Are you asleep? WOW a threat!!! Say it isn’t so. Let’s rally the troops and get involved in another war in Europe over a threat. Are you truly that simple minded? I agree we should not be afraid of Putin!!! Okay, how about we give Zelensky planes? Why should we give them jackshit? Why hasnt anybody else sent planes or established a no fly zone,, Our Pesident is dam stupid he shut his countries oil production off an bought from the countries enemies,,, EVERYTHING that DOLT is for Im against FuQ JOE B
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Everything is OK, I have these papers signed and they will not invade anyone else….all is fine. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/ncH94WfP/79467581-21-CD-475-D-954-E-EF74-B405-C743.jpg) Not one spot of American blood on Ukrainian soil. I have no issues supplying them munitions, medical supplies and food. I hope they kill lots of commies. Yes [bleep] the Russian Commies! I hope the Russian all die! POS!!!!!!
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Jeffo Shut the FuQ up,, the adults are talking,, You and your ilk are most of the problem,, The other part of the problem is the rest of us has enough morals not to hunt you down and drown you like kittens,
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Fuq that guy. I/we don’t owe him schit. I hope the Russians get him soon enough so that I don’t have to listen to that whining bullschit. Yes, the spirit that made America great, strong and free. LOLOLOL It is actually. It is a George Washington approved message you ignorant slut. I’ll add, I hope they get his family too for having the temerity to presume to bitch at us about his problems. Do you really think the good ole boys on D-Day would agree with your attitude. Let me know when Russia declares war on us like Germany did. The US provoked both Japan and Germany while acting as a 'neutral' state... We were actively engaging in activities that were rightfully considered hostile, and we were pulled into the war because the powers that be wanted us there, and even Gen Patton understood before he was assassinated that "We've defeated the wrong enemy". Good Lord... I can't believe after that 'election'.. And after covid.. people still believe what they hear coming out of the sound and light box. Pretty sad Attention spans are terrible, and they are only getting worse. No one reads, everything is 30 seconds or less sensational audio or video clips with programmed cues. Most people are incapable of critical thinking now days, and that's the way they want it... I just learned that many people don't even have an internal voice, they are literally empty headed NPCs... no wonder the programming works so well on certain people, and it explains why they are incapable of having a discussion about these topics because they don't really have anything except their emotional response and smarmy statements that they remember hearing. Instead you get ad hominems and other logical fallacies that again, they were programmed to respond to, and are confused/angry when the programming doesn't work on their opponents. ![[Linked Image from pbs.twimg.com]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ewh9_78WYAQNSpp.jpg) https://www.iflscience.com/brain/pe...gue-explain-what-its-like-in-their-head/Earlier this year, a lot of people were surprised to discover that some people don't have an internal monologue, while those people who don't were surprised to learn other people do. Having only ever lived in your own head, it's pretty weird to discover that other people think differently than you do.
For instance, I assumed that everyone else had an internal monologue, and like mine, that monologue is voiced by Patrick Stewart. To think that some people don't have a monologue portrayed by Captain Pickard was weird enough, without discovering that they hear nothing at all.
Shortly after everyone discovered the other group of thinkers exist, people started to explain to each other what their method of thinking is like, and how the other one is plain weird. In one Reddit thread, user Vadermaulkylo posted, "Today, I told my mom that I have no internal monologue and she stared at me like I have three heads. Is having one common?" They confessed they had thought it was a fictional concept made up as a narrative device in the TV show Dexter (about a surprisingly teary psychopath).
What it's like not to have a monologue
After people had called the poor Redditor a non-playable character enough times to get it out of their systems, several people (including the OP) described what it's actually like to not have an internal monologue.
“So if your boss asks you to do something right at the point you were planning to leave work you don’t think ‘oh f***ing s**t b*lls what a pain? in your head, while saying ‘No problem at all boss,’ out loud?” one user asked.
“No. Never had that," Vadermaulkylo responded. "If I’m asked to do something I don’t wanna do, I just get kinda frustrated but that’s about it. I don’t really think to myself.”
Others confirmed their experience was similar.
"I’m the same way," said user GohanShmohan. "I don’t have any conscious thought about what I’m feeling, or any stream of dialogue describing it to myself. I just feel it. It’s like the inner dialogue is the middle man in my head, who just isn’t there."
For others, it was a bit more complicated.
"I don't have a inner monologue either. Any time I have to communicate outside my head with words, I have to "translate" what I'm thinking. That takes time and effort. It's why I vastly prefer written communication over verbal, since you can take more time than the instant response a verbal conversation requires," Redditor BobbitWormJoe wrote.
"When I know I will need to verbally communicate (such as if I need to make a phone call or bring up a topic at a meeting), I prepare mentally as much as possible so I know what words I actually need to say. On the other hand, if I'm in a conversation where I haven't had time to organize and translate my thoughts ahead of time, I constantly have long pauses where I'm doing it in real time, which comes off as weird to people who notice it. This annoyed my wife for a long time until we both realized why it was happening."
Asked if they ever got songs stuck in their head, Vadermaulkylo replied: "Actually that’s probably the closest thing I have to one. Currently got a couple songs from that new Lil Wayne album in my head. I read stuff in my head too of course."
What it's like to have a monologue
"Thoughts are words," user merewautt wrote. "I can't imagine a thought not as a verbal construction. All my thoughts are colored by the physical parts of different emotions, but they're all words. I can imagine being physically angry for a moment without verbally thinking it (my heart would be racing, maybe my shoulders shake, muscles tense up, etc) but I can't imagine being aware of any of my physical emotions without thoughts as language. My internal monologue while my body was having the physical anger response would be (inner monologue in parenthesis):
(Oh f this b***h, she's being such a hypocrite) -out loud- YOU'RE BEING A F***ING HYPOCRITE, (she's gonna say it's not the same because----) IT'S NOT THE SAME AND YOU KNOW IT."
Many people agreed feeling the emotion of being angry went hand in hand with an internal monologue of ranting and quite a lot of swearing, and couldn't imagine just feeling a physical response to an emotion without a constant stream of thoughts as words to articulate it to themselves. Merewautt pointed out this is how Freudian slips happen, when you aren't planning to say something out loud, but you're thinking it and "lose the filter" on your inner monologue.
Others asked whether people with monologues walk around narrating their lives like Bridgette Jones, which, to be honest, kind of.
What does the science say?
In scientific studies, it seems people experience more of a mix than the self-selected responders to a viral post that implied it was either/or.
A small study in 2011 tried to get a better picture of how people think. They gave beepers to a random sample of students. When the beeper went off, they had to note down what was going on inside their heads moments before it went off. This went on for several weeks, to get them used to it and then to get an accurate picture of what was happening inside their minds.
"Subjects experienced themselves as inwardly talking to themselves in 26 percent of all samples," the team wrote in Psychology Today. "But there were large individual differences: some subjects never experienced inner speech; other subjects experienced inner speech in as many as 75 percent of their samples. The median percentage across subjects was 20 percent.
"Some people talk to themselves a lot, some never, some occasionally."
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WTF are you doing about it besides posting on the internet. Not that doing something about it is intelligent on any level.
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Not our roblem.
Some asshat invades this country and all hell will be unleashed on them. We won’t be asking for help. It is our problem obviously or we would not be sanctioning them. The question is not whether it si our problem, we know it is, the question is what is the appropriate response. Will you be ok with sending your son or daughter, or perhaps yourself, to Ukraine to fight? If you feel so strongly about it Ukraine is welcoming foreign fighters - let us know how things are working out for you when you get there. drover
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I don't recall a topic ever on the "Fire up to now that had fuggers foaming at the mouth, eyes rolled back, floppin' like a fish, like this one. Completely unhinged.
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My take.... no American boots on the ground (unless they want to go join up of course). If Putin follows his Aleppo/Grozny pattern, he’s gonna start leveling cities. It’s starting to look like that his only play here, since his ground forces are proving to be lame while the Ukrainians are proving to be highly effective and highly motivated.
Anyone who says this need to keep in mind that one we’re mostly seeing what the spin doctors want us to see and that two it isn’t truly organic. Ukraine was already in a civil war between factions on both sides and that the pro Ukraine/US government side is fighting a proxy war heavily subsidized with our military aid. That are government has been arming and training them to the teeth with our weapons, training, and CIA ops.
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Not our roblem.
Some asshat invades this country and all hell will be unleashed on them. We won’t be asking for help. It is our problem obviously or we would not be sanctioning them. The question is not whether it si our problem, we know it is, the question is what is the appropriate response. Will you be ok with sending your son or daughter, or perhaps yourself, to Ukraine to fight? If you feel so strongly about it Ukraine is welcoming foreign fighters - let us know how things are working out for you when you get there. drover My dad talked about this when he was alive. He said most of the people he was around felt the same way, war is in Europe, not our problem. His brother was a POW in 1941. He ended up in the Pacific in 1944. I don’t want to see my grandson in Europe, except on vacation. Give Ukraine all the supplies we can afford, after that, defend our shores/border. I don’t trust the southern hemisphere anymore than the rest.
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Does it seem we will need to draft turtles to fight Putin?
Is not our military volunteer?
How a skeered R U?
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Not our problem.
Some asshat invades this country and all hell will be unleashed on them. We won’t be asking for help. It is our problem obviously or we would not be sanctioning them. The question is not whether it si our problem, we know it is, the question is what is the appropriate response. Sit back, watch, and take notes. This ain’t our problem. But it’s rather enlightening to watch the Russians at work. It is our problem that is why we imposed sanctions. We know it is our problem we just lack the courage to take a strong stand. You should really do some research on what a filthy corrupt country you are talking about. Propped up by our filthy disgusting government. It is not our problem. It is our politicians problem. But not because of anything beneficial to our citizens. It’s because it will fugg up the magic pipeline that delivers money that comes from the laundry over in that chithole. Money the tax payers paid. That again, the blood sucking leeches are skimming to become filthy rich. So don’t dare think it is U. S. Citizens problem, no more than it is the Ukrainian citizens. Not their fault the scum suckers running their country are P. O. S. Also. Take care, Willie
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Big tech is 10x the threat that putin is.
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Ukraine wouldn’t send us a box of .22 shorts if we were in a similar situation.
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So tell me something I DON'T know.
Fook him. Where was he when Seattle was burning down. I never saw him any where around me when half of southern Indiana was under water. I don't owe that guy anything.
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