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That second or third vehicle investment cost and ownership/operating cost can represent a LOT of future fuel dollars for the primary vehicle.
I will stick with my truck. The wife gets whatever she wants.

Most household 220/240 outlets (dryer, welder, etc) are 50 to 60 amp.

I have one 50 amp 220 on the outside of the wellhouse for an RV plug and two wells inside. Another 50 amp RV plug on the outside of the garage, as well as a 50 amp welder circuit in the garage.

The house has one 60 amp feeding the furnace as well as a 30 amp to the AC, 50 amps to the dryer, 30 amps to the water heater, and 40 amps to the range.

This is all fed from one 200 amp main at the meter. You just don't run every circuit at maximum capacity simultaneously.

What's the cost to replace the batteries? The goal of the Marxist Democrats (and other globalists) is to bankrupt the middle class worldwide and the USA's economy at the same time. They want all electric vehicles not just cars. I think California is already mandating all electric 18 wheelers in the near future. Most of the material needed to "Go Green" will be made in China.

The people driving and bragging about how great their electric cars are helping them accomplish that.

The minions (democrat voters) of the big cities have no interest in pollution reduction. They simply want pollution displacement.

Get the smog out of their precious cities and move it somewhere else. EVs accomplish this well. Put the generating facilities 200 or 300 miles away on a mountain or in the desert and the urban denizens could not care less how much emissions they make. Just so long as they do not have to breath it.

You have not been listening, have you? My dealership says that since Gen 2 of Toyota hybrids, they have NEVER replaced a battery. And do not expect to for the life of the vehicle.

Coming soon to a once free country near you.

It's free if you have a $100k windmill.

And a plant is being built now in Ontario that will recycle and re-use the chemicals and metals in the EV (including hybrid) batteries when they do need replacing.
RB

But Rocky, What do they consider "life of the vehicle"?

I am not the only person around to purchase 20 year old vehicles with 150,000 miles on them. I expect to get another 15 to 20 years and another 150 to 200K in miles.

What is their actual warranty on the battery?

In Commyfornia they are charging us 51 cents a kilowatt at certain times of the day from 5pm--9pm
and we have rolling black outs when ever the Gooberment wants to shut things down.

People need to think about that when they buy an EV.

From the link I posted earlier....

A single battery providing a useful driving range weighs about 1,000 pounds. Providing the refined minerals needed to fabricate a single EV battery requires the mining, moving, and processing of more than 500,000 pounds of materials somewhere on the planet.

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/mines-minerals-and-green-energy-reality-check

Not going to change your mind or mine. I go on many hunting trips per year. I haul lots of equipment, coolers, dead animals etc. and I often hit the road and drive 4-800 miles a day. Small vehicles won’t haul what I need to haul and an e vehicle would take multiple extra days to get to and from. When an e vehicle will haul what I need hauled and can run 800 miles on a charge in cool/cold weather and be as economical as gas, I’ll buy one.

What will be the cost of recycling the batteries? That cost will get passed to the owners of the e vehicle, or maybe some kind of tax on all of us.

First, my bad. The Windsor, Ontario site lost out to NC, which is where the plant is being built. This is hearsay, but a Prius-owning friend says that the cost of a replacement battery will be about $2K, with a trade-in of the old one. That'll be a cost about once a decade.
RB

Among a whole lot more. Another classic 'fire thread as the site continues to dumb down.

I read an article from Popular Mechanics or Popular Science a while back. They checked out a 10 year old Toyota Pruis hybrid. The batterys lost a little over a 10 year period, but it was still in the high 90% range of charging. I think this Prius had over 150,000 miles on it. Not bad. It could go about 45 miles on electric without the engine. Good for commuting and doing various shopping chores for most Americans. Larger hybrids have more battery space and usually longer electric only range.

I think hybrids are a good compromise for the next 10-20 years. Gets high gasoline mileage and saves for around town driving. Grid is the problem.

I also read that going full throttle to change the grid is not going to happen for at least 60 years. Full throttle "green new deal" will take the next 25 years to install enough windmills and solar panels and hydro dams to get to 44% renewable power. We would still need 31% natural gas and the rest nuclear just to replace coal fired plants. So it would take another 25-30 years just to replace natural gas. Not going to happen overnight. Same is true with electrics. Hybrids now, then full electrics when they get newer better batteries and faster charging times.

Several years ago, and they are still working on this, they thought graphine capacitor batteries would allow fast charging. They do, but trying to get slow release of power from a capacitor to run a car is hard to do. Giant capacitors can charge in just a few minutes, but they want to release the same way. If they could master this, it would make capacitor batteries fast charging and cheap to build. Iron batteries are now being studied. Far cheaper than lithium cobalt or nickel. Still have more battery work.

We wont need gas or nuclear once the price of coal comes down.

Too, there are alternatives for less-than-rural folk to owning a pu. Utility trailers for light-to-medium weight hauling, and rental trucks for the time or two each year when they are what's needed. I live way out in the boondocks and have lived without a pu for over a decade, so I know it can be done without undue inconvenience.
RB

The Western world is too propagandized and brainwashed to allow it.

RV outlets are 110v not 220