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No doubt about anything you've said. Just nobody up here shoots little guns at big deer whether they may work or not. YMMV. Most of the people in Maine don't vote for Republican presidents, so what is your point? What the fugg are you on about and how would you know who we vote for? You think Portland represents the rest.of us be cause they are a larger voting block? Idiot. Stay in the Commonwealth. Whatever you say playboy.
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I'm looking forward to more pearls of wisdom from someone about something they have never done.
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The point isn’t how many deer are killed but that people who kill a small amount of deer with a lot amount of free time come up with all of the conclusions. Change the subject to dicks if that’s you’re thing but I know what we do and what works. You can keep your hypothetical deer and the penis conversation you brought up
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Now we're measuring dicks Kaleb by how many deer are killed each season? Well, how about it stud? How many did you put on the pole last year? Probably more than the 4 I killed. At the end of the day there's hunting deer and then there's hunting mature trophy bucks. You rebs stick to the 22s and we'll stick to what we like. Can we now get back to Kumbaya? And zip your pants back up Kaleb. So screwing one fat chick in 10 years makes you a playboy. No wonder you boys voted in Obama and Biden. Is this Steelheads latest incarnation?
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No doubt about anything you've said. Just nobody up here shoots little guns at big deer whether they may work or not. YMMV. Most of the people in Maine don't vote for Republican presidents, so what is your point? Not sure why someone from VA would bring up presidential politics. Biden carried VA, as did Obama twice. Alas, being from MI, I also don't have much reason to cast the first stone.
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I'm looking forward to more pearls of wisdom from someone about something they have never done. +1 It's never not funny.
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Jon_in_VA,
How big of a sample size are we talking of VA deer have you killed with a .223? Treestand ranges or open fields?
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Jon_in_VA,
How big of a sample size are we talking of VA deer have you killed with a .223? Treestand ranges or open fields? Jon_in_VA is actually Scott_in_TN. 
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Jon_in_VA,
How big of a sample size are we talking of VA deer have you killed with a .223? Treestand ranges or open fields? Jon_in_VA is actually Scott_in_TN. Had me curious as I lived in VA of and on for the last 20 years and of the 100+ deer I killed there, none were with a .223. Mostly because that is illegal. There is a .24 caliber minimum in that state. Not to say it would not work or I would not have used it if legal but I stuck with a .243W. Most all the deer I killed there were within 50 yards, save a few hay or bean field encounters.
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No doubt about anything you've said. Just nobody up here shoots little guns at big deer whether they may work or not. YMMV. Most of the people in Maine don't vote for Republican presidents, so what is your point? Not sure why someone from VA would bring up presidential politics. Biden carried VA, as did Obama twice. Alas, being from MI, I also don't have much reason to cast the first stone. He's not from VA, he's from NJ. Er, whoops I mean TN
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Jon_in_VA,
How big of a sample size are we talking of VA deer have you killed with a .223? Treestand ranges or open fields? Jon_in_VA is actually Scott_in_TN. And Scott_in_TN is actually Steelhead
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No doubt about anything you've said. Just nobody up here shoots little guns at big deer whether they may work or not. YMMV. Most of the people in Maine don't vote for Republican presidents, so what is your point? Not sure why someone from VA would bring up presidential politics. Biden carried VA, as did Obama twice. Alas, being from MI, I also don't have much reason to cast the first stone. He's not from VA, he's from NJ. Er, whoops I mean TN Guy gets around. Maybe he’s Porta-Jon.
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No doubt about anything you've said. Just nobody up here shoots little guns at big deer whether they may work or not. YMMV. Most of the people in Maine don't vote for Republican presidents, so what is your point? Not sure why someone from VA would bring up presidential politics. Biden carried VA, as did Obama twice. Alas, being from MI, I also don't have much reason to cast the first stone. He's not from VA, he's from NJ. Er, whoops I mean TN Guy gets around. Maybe he’s Porta-Jon. He pretends to be the ultimate Dixie Rebel but he's really from NJ which makes him a "Damn Yankee"
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I was just talking with an old Marine buddy and remembered this one. He has a 6mm Rem and it was his only rifle back when he got out. Used 55 BTs for coyotes and 100 Partitions for deer. Well, I think life and work got in the way before he was able to load more or rezero his rifle before hunting season. Anyhow, he shot this buck at 258 yards with the 55 Ballistic Tips. Put it right in the slats. Said the old boy did a semi circle and flopped dead to Croakville ![[Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/ww233/beretzs/HUNTING/IMGP7906.jpg) ![[Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/ww233/beretzs/HUNTING/IMGP7910.jpg) ![[Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]](https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/ww233/beretzs/HUNTING/IMGP7916.jpg) I believe this buck was Idahos big buck of the year around 2011. Don’t hold me to it. I had similar results using the 55 BT in a 22-250 but never on a record buck but they all died handily, when punched in the ribs.
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I remember that buck Scotty, hellava buck. You and other know I’ve killed some damn big bucks with the 6ai and 80 bt’s, 22 cm and 75’s have killed a couple gooduns for me too. The 55 bt’s outta the 243/6mm are hammers!!
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I remember that buck Scotty, hellava buck. You and other know I’ve killed some damn big bucks with the 6ai and 80 bt’s, 22 cm and 75’s have killed a couple gooduns for me too. The 55 bt’s outta the 243/6mm are hammers!! I think this is all horseshit mostly. Bad stuff happens with a 224 or a 340. Kaleb nailed it, a bad shot is a bad shot. No amount of firepower will alter it much. Our own Dober and a few other Montanan’s have wheeled a whole lot of bucks and bulls home with 22-250’s and 220 Swifts with plain old Sierra, Hornady and similar bullets. I find it crazy to say they are marginal when they work so well. Hell, someone mentioned it a few weeks ago, but the Jordan buck was smoked with a 25-20 I believe.
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Any bullet that will go inside, blow sh't up inside' and go out the other side (every time), is as good as it gets.
Anything else I inferior.
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One thing I can’t help but notice is this. Most of the people who are using a 243 shoot kill put up and eat a lot of deer. Year after year. We know our equipment works fine for what we will be doing because WE DO IT.
Then we have another group who keep going on about all this hypothetical stuff. What if it’s a bad angle what if it’s running what if it’s thick cover what if it weighs 300 pounds. lol.
Serious question. How many of you normally shoot(or ever) 300 pound deer running in a thicket at bad angles?
For the most part you have people who do stuff and people who talk about doing stuff. Most people do more talking about it and thinking about it than doing it. Maybe that’s why all the worst case scenario stuff keeps coming up? What do y’all do when your alarm doesn’t go off? What do you do if your truck doesn’t start or have a flat? What if a tree fell across the road. You can what if all day long. Meanwhile the world is full of people who go out and make meat with 243’s and the like. I shot a running away buck in the woods. Not bragging about the bullet placement. The bullet hit the major bone in the hip and traveled up to the shoulder. It expanded to twice the caliber. 30-06 & 180 grain Hornady bullets. Try that with your 223. I watched my wife shoot a quartering buck in the shoulder with a 223 and after breaking the shoulder the bullet traveled through one lung, the liver, assorted guts, and part of the hind quarter before coming to rest under the hide. He traveled less than 10 yards before he croaked. Is that good enough? As people who’ve extensively used smaller calibers have said more than once in this very thread, good bullets available today make a much bigger gun out of small calibers. My wife shot a deer with our 22-250AI and a 62 gr tsx. When I got to her I asked where the deer went? She kept saying right there. I was being smart and kept asking yea but which way did he run? She said if you’d listen the deer was and is right there. Went through both front shoulders. I’m still thinking that two conversations are going on. The people that are killing stuff and the other guys who kill less than 4 deer/animals a year and want to tell everyone else about killing. I wonder if they also send their knives back in for sharpening too….grin. That 22-250 Ackley with the 62 TTSX is a beast isn’t it Kaleb? Jeeze. Folks jaws would drop if they’d see more of the carnage first hand.
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I'm looking forward to more pearls of wisdom from someone about something they have never done. I bet you look forward to getting a pearl necklace too sock puppet.
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I was just talking with an old Marine buddy and remembered this one. He has a 6mm Rem and it was his only rifle back when he got out. Used 55 BTs for coyotes and 100 Partitions for deer. Well, I think life and work got in the way before he was able to load more or rezero his rifle before hunting season. Anyhow, he shot this buck at 258 yards with the 55 Ballistic Tips. Put it right in the slats. Said the old boy did a semi circle and flopped dead to Croakville I believe this buck was Idahos big buck of the year around 2011. Don’t hold me to it. I had similar results using the 55 BT in a 22-250 but never on a record buck but they all died handily, when punched in the ribs. Bennett Hills tag?
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