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I don’t remember what the “horizontal string” tea leaves indicate when doing load development...I think it means a seating depth issues.



Horizontal stringing...something tells me you have a bedding issue.

Properly bed them fatties and gold will appear.

Agreed. Or a barrel that is barely free-floated.


Which to my mind at least, is a bedding issue. Fo` shizzle.
Those flimsy stalks on rifles such as these, plus the Ruger American, etc. are absolutely worthless.


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I guess being irked about the bolt not locking, and worrying about the sling mount points failing might have been the least of my problems if I’d bought the Momentum! It sucks when you have to worry about “MOBD” accuracy instead of being remotely close to MOA. Damn those impulse buys! I spose you could always screw a red reflector on each side of the stock and put it on the edge of your driveway or by your mailbox. Sorry for the bad luck this one.

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I hope I’m not derailing the thread but my only experience with cheap box guns in plastic stocks was a 7-08 Weatherby Vanguard in the grey injection molded stock with the black rubber grip panels. It was on sale for a good price and I “needed” a new toy.

Planned on playing around with it then move it on. It needed bedding and free floating but after that it is so consistent it has become one of may favorites.

It’s a bummer that this rifle has been such a pain.

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I'd take that fugker back. Hopefully the LGS has some pull with the distro. You could spend a small fortune on ammo and sanity trying to make that right and then how right will it be.


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JB, was only hoping I’d be trying to crucify his beloved Leupold before weighing in on my lack of shooting skills.



Sounds like you found the # issue with bad Leupolds. grin


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Originally Posted by Beaver10
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I don’t remember what the “horizontal string” tea leaves indicate when doing load development...I think it means a seating depth issues.



Horizontal stringing...something tells me you have a bedding issue.

Properly bed them fatties and gold will appear.

Agreed. Or a barrel that is barely free-floated.


Which to my mind at least, is a bedding issue. Fo` shizzle.
Those flimsy stalks on rifles such as these, plus the Ruger American, etc. are absolutely worthless.


All I hear when you talk is.....Bring me another beer and run me a hot bath for my feet.

😂🦫



I love it when you talk dirty like that.

Switch that stock out with something worth a sh:t, make sure no goofy contact points are on the bbl, and I will bet you'll have a rifle worth the trouble.



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Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by kingston
Well Bohn Jurns was no help.



I'd take that fugker back. Hopefully the LGS has some pull with the distro. You could spend a small fortune on ammo and sanity trying to make that right and then how right will it be.


PS

JB, was only hoping I’d be trying to crucify his beloved Leupold before weighing in on my lack of shooting skills.



Sounds like you found the # issue with bad Leupolds. grin


You should drag this thread over to the optic forum for fun.

Heads be exploding like prairie dogs hit with a 243 Win, if you did.

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Originally Posted by GRF
I hope I’m not derailing the thread but my only experience with cheap box guns in plastic stocks was a 7-08 Weatherby Vanguard in the grey injection molded stock with the black rubber grip panels. It was on sale for a good price and I “needed” a new toy.

Planned on playing around with it then move it on. It needed bedding and free floating but after that it is so consistent it has become one of may favorites.

It’s a bummer that this rifle has been such a pain.


Today, most economy rifle will shoot pretty good. Like you said, the stocks are the weak link and might need some attention to make them shoot better.

While this rifle is my problem. I can’t specifically tell where I’d need to cut and grind away stock material. If that’s even the issue.

Franchi made it. They can fix it. Especially when it just came out of the box.

I didn’t buy this rifle to throw it into a $300-$400 dollar stock. I bought it for a specific purpose of riding shotgun with me and their stock catching all the dings, dents and sorry’s.

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Originally Posted by Beaver10
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Sounds like you found the # issue with bad Leupolds. grin


You should drag this thread over to the optic forum for fun.

Heads be exploding like prairie dogs hit with a 243 Win, if you did.

😬🦫


Hopefully you get back a rifle you can sell without a guilty conscience.

I bet the Bergara works as it should.

It will need a muffler. grin



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Sounds like you found the # issue with bad Leupolds. grin


You should drag this thread over to the optic forum for fun.

Heads be exploding like prairie dogs hit with a 243 Win, if you did.

😬🦫


Hopefully you get back a rifle you can sell without a guilty conscience.

I bet the Bergara works as it should.

It will need a muffler. grin




Muffler...LOL

You dick!

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I read this review article on the Franchi Momentum Elite today. Extended accuracy problems were apparently experienced, by the reviewers after firing a few rounds at the target.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/a-first-for-franchi-momentum-rifle/

I didn’t come away after reading it, with a warm, fuzzy, tingling feeling. The rifle is trucking back to Franchi for them to look into it’s issues.

When I get it back, it’s going down the road, here locally. Most likely I will take it back to where I bought it. Take my lumps for it’s failures and mine for buying it impulsively, without reading up on the rifles behaviors.

Nothing more here to see. It’s a lesson in, do your research on new and unproven firearms before buying.

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IIRC, Mule Deer went on an Industry hunt with one of these, a .308, and ended up buying it, or another just like it. The groups in that AR piece are 5-shot, so not awful, but yours are kinda sad. Hope they sort it out for you. Stuff like this, even when it gets sorted out in the end, just kills your fun, plus it’s a giant PITA to send stuff back, no small task these days, and you risk disaster in shipping twice to boot.


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Thanks for taking one for the team Beav. Great review regardless, and I applaud your efforts.


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I found your review by Googling my issue and made an account just to let you know I have the EXACT same problem with mine in .223. Accuracy is all over the place. And like you, mine too was a impulse buy which I rarely do.

100yd group: https://imgur.com/JxW1EEY
200yd group: https://imgur.com/BeO0aeM

Can you please keep us posted on how you make out?


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Sounds like Franchi did have shotgun guys making these. LOL


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Originally Posted by TechNICKal
I found your review by Googling my issue and made an account just to let you know I have the EXACT same problem with mine in .223. Accuracy is all over the place. And like you, mine too was a impulse buy which I rarely do.

100yd group: https://imgur.com/JxW1EEY
200yd group: https://imgur.com/BeO0aeM

Can you please keep us posted on how you make out?



Franchi thinks the problem was the stock interfering with the barrels free float.

Good luck with yours.

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Damn, it’s almost hard to believe the rifle could shoot that [bleep] Beav. I’ll be watching this one. Hard to sort out what it could be between the Leupold and a new rifle but man, you’d think the barrel has interrupted rifling to shoot that bad whistle

Maybe try a tighter choke?

Tighter choke? I didn't think the groups were bad. Was he shooting it at 800 yards?


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Originally Posted by TechNICKal
I found your review by Googling my issue and made an account just to let you know I have the EXACT same problem with mine in .223. Accuracy is all over the place. And like you, mine too was a impulse buy which I rarely do.

100yd group: https://imgur.com/JxW1EEY
200yd group: https://imgur.com/BeO0aeM

Can you please keep us posted on how you make out?



Yuck.

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Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by TechNICKal
I found your review by Googling my issue and made an account just to let you know I have the EXACT same problem with mine in .223. Accuracy is all over the place. And like you, mine too was a impulse buy which I rarely do.

100yd group: https://imgur.com/JxW1EEY
200yd group: https://imgur.com/BeO0aeM

Can you please keep us posted on how you make out?



Franchi thinks the problem was the stock interfering with the barrels free float.

Good luck with yours.

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I don't think that's the issue Beav. I have seen odd pressure points cause some degradation in groups, but not shotgun patterns like you got. I am interested in seeing how this works out for you.

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Originally Posted by T_Inman
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I don’t remember what the “horizontal string” tea leaves indicate when doing load development...I think it means a seating depth issues.



Horizontal stringing...something tells me you have a bedding issue.

Properly bed them fatties and gold will appear.


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In what way, shape, or form did that gun remind you of a Tikka? A round action, open breech, etc...

Shoots like a Ruger #1 grin

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