Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire adding poodle ruins the dog breed!!!

I've watched this dumb, fat Lab catch/kill quite a few of them. I need to get over to the dry side and give her a run at jackrabbits for real sport.

what would i be without you

I watched an old timer pheasant hunt with a standard poodle once.. that dog was straight wicked! Very impressive

That lab does not appear to be owned by a "liberal professor"

No sir!

I think it's more the breeders pumping out expensive puppies than the breed. I've seen dogs that were half poodle , that were great dogs, but their Mom wasn't their Sister and their Dad wasn't their Grandpaw.............for 5 generations.

I knew this would be like goring someone's sacred cow. But my opinion is that it takes otherwise good looking dogs and makes them uglier than hell.

I’ve heard good and bad things about labradoodles but have no first hand experience around them. If I wanted a non shedding house pet a standard poodle would seem to fit the bill without crossing it to a Lab but again I’ve never been around a labradoodle maybe it brings something else to the table but I doubt it.

I’m an English Setter guy. My first two were out of field trial stock but had awesome off switches in the house. My current one is out of a Ryman “dual purpose line” that is supposed to be more laid back he isn’t bad in the house but is the most high strung of the three that I’ve had.

I like bird hunting and bird dogs but you usually take the good with the bad IMO. A calm well trained dog out of hunting or field trial lines tends to have more energy and enthusiasm that a standard house pet. It’s tough to breed in mega prey drive and the desire to run themselves bloody and to exhaustion without also having some carryover enthusiasm when the doorbell rings or a squirrel, bird ect is outside the window.

Don't think I've ever seen a fat lab that didn't have a fat owner.

Both are overfed and lacking in exercise.

That Lab looks fairly intense and fit to me and looks to be out of a field trial or a hunting line.

Poodles are great dogs if you establish pecking order firmly.
In the 1970s, our kennel was one champion GSP and two registered miniature poodles. What a pheasant hunting team they made. The sissy dogs wore wool sweaters my Grandma knitted and were amazing pointers. Sometimes the burrs got a little thick, and neither could retrieve, but they could find.

Or maybe it's the neighborhood.

Careful, I had a dog that loved to chase rabbits. One day she took off chasing one and came back on 3 legs. Blown out knee, about $4,000. worth as I recall.

Moto,
That's unfortunate for sure. And expensive..

A scroll through NAVHDA scores would make that apparent. I'm a bit biased as Hank is a PP and to date the best all around dog I've ever been around. He doesn't do bad on the birds and would very likely be better if I had more experience training him and lived in a place where getting him on wild birds was easier.

DSCN2300 by .com/photos/150924633N06/]Tyler Staggs, on [bleep]

This is her right now, demanding attention..

"The Poodle, called the Pudel in German and the Caniche in French, is a breed of water dog. The breed is divided into four varieties based on size, the Standard Poodle, Medium Poodle, Miniature Poodle and Toy Poodle, although the Medium Poodle variety is not universally recognized.

The Poodle most likely originated in Germany, although it is also claimed to be from France. The Standard Poodle was originally used by wildfowl hunters to retrieve game from water. The smaller varieties of the breed were bred from the original in France where they were once commonly used as circus performers, but have become popular companion dogs.

Whatever the Poodle's country of origin, both their German and French breed names indicate the modern Poodle's ancestors were widely used by waterfowlers both to retrieve shot game and to recover lost arrows and bolts that had missed their mark. The breed's distinctive lion coat clip developed as a practicality when they were used as waterfowler's dogs, with the long hair around the chest providing insulation for the dog's vitals in freezing water, while the shorn hindquarters reduced drag whilst swimming and the tufts of hair on the legs provided purchase in the water."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle

We have a 2 year old here at the house recovering from blowing out his ligaments............chasing his "brother"..............who was chasing a loose dog outside the schoolyard fence where we were throwing the frisbee for him. Horrible day, and he'll likely never compete in lure coursing or agility as was the plan.

Friggen dogs will do what they do though.....

Dandy brother Dan 👊🏻

Jules saying, "Dude get off the Fire and let's go kill stuff!"