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saw a thread a while back touting the advantages of an auto transmission on a heavy duty truck.
for some reason I can't find it now.
Diesel truck, regardless of manufacturer, what is the consensus on transmission types?
towing between 10 and 18 k lbs. some hills mostly hwy.
think RV...
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I prefer a manual in all trucks unless I am going to have a lot of stop and go traffic in a city. Problem is getting a manual in a newer truck is a tall order.
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I drive an F 350 with a ZF650 manual. I tow about 12 to 13000 lbs. I hate the way an automatic "gear searches".
.I'll just change gears myself.
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Would try to find a manual, just me
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If you're buying new then a manual isn't an option anyway so it's a moot point.
Years ago I'd have said manuals were better, but the autos have gotten so good that they do everything better. The only reason for a manual nowadays is for nostalgia or just because you want one. I still love a manual in a sports car, but in a pickup give me the auto so I can let it do the work.
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Been running automatic transmissions since 2014 without any problems. I'd still rather have a stick for a dedicated tow truck. But with the torque that the newer Cummins puts out they'll slip if you don't have a heavy duty clutch and pressure plate.
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Heavy duty truck?
Are you fugging kidding me?
Class 6 7 or 8?
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A control freak here. Driving a manual F350, but not hearing of any among the new rigs.
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There's a reason why God allowed humans to invent air conditioning, elevators, and automatic transmissions - 'cause day's GOOD!
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Both my diesel pickups are manuals.
Autos are nice for city driving or even mountain driving, but their disadvantages outweigh their advantages, to me at least. I like having which gear I want, not what the computer thinks I want. I have blown s few automatic transmissions over the years while towing, and I don't tow anything real heavy very often. My 99 Stroker and 91 Cummins both have their original manual transmissions and have zero issues right now.
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I drove my manual 98 Dodge Cummins 20 years. Hunting season was right at 17,000 pounds, truck,trailer, loaded and really liked it. Wanted to get another manual.You can't find them on a lot now days. I am pleasantly surprised with this 2019 Chevy Duramax, w/Allison 6 sp auto. Especially the manual tow mode pulling up mountain passes.You can shift it just like a manual or let it do it's own thing
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I have one of each.
2006 RAM 3500 DRW Quad cab G56 LOVE it. maybe tow 7-8 k lbs trailer with a mid sized tractor, otherwise it's a daily. .
2018 RAM 3500 HO auto with AISIN, towing my fiver across country.
just wondering what others tow a trailer with
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I drove my manual 98 Dodge Cummins 20 years. Hunting season was right at 17,000 pounds, truck,trailer, loaded and really liked it. Wanted to get another manual.You can't find them on a lot now days. I am pleasantly surprised with this 2019 Chevy Duramax, w/Allison 6 sp auto. Especially the manual tow mode pulling up mountain passes.You can shift it just like a manual or let it do it's own thing I have driven a few automatics with that manual tow mode feature. I keep forgetting that those options are available these days. I'm too poor to have something that new right now anyhow but it is a good idea, in theory at least.
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Auto now that they have been refined. Manual up until 7-8 years ago.
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06 duramax allison auto with electronic manual.
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Been running automatic transmissions since 2014 without any problems. I'd still rather have a stick for a dedicated tow truck. But with the torque that the newer Cummins puts out they'll slip if you don't have a heavy duty clutch and pressure plate. Just a question, as I can't afford a new truck, even a Tacoma, but why the hell would ANY company sell a diesel rig, designed for towing, without putting in a heavy duty clutch and pressure plate? Why would a lighter duty set up in a manual trans coupled to a diesel motor even be an option? Sheesh.
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Been running automatic transmissions since 2014 without any problems. I'd still rather have a stick for a dedicated tow truck. But with the torque that the newer Cummins puts out they'll slip if you don't have a heavy duty clutch and pressure plate. Just a question, as I can't afford a new truck, even a Tacoma, but why the hell would ANY company sell a diesel rig, designed for towing, without putting in a heavy duty clutch and pressure plate? Why would a lighter duty set up in a manual trans coupled to a diesel motor even be an option? Sheesh. Have you been in a coma for the last 10 years? You can’t buy a standard transmission in a truck to save your soul, but horses and campers are still being pulled all over the United States.
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If you're buying new then a manual isn't an option anyway so it's a moot point.
Years ago I'd have said manuals were better, but the autos have gotten so good that they do everything better. The only reason for a manual nowadays is for nostalgia or just because you want one. I still love a manual in a sports car, but in a pickup give me the auto so I can let it do the work. The other reason for a manual is that they are less likely to be stolen as fewer people know how to work a clutch.
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Allison behind a Cummins is pretty good, but when you finish throwing hey off the back; the foot race begins! I seem to be getting old and slow! 
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