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Three levels of alert.

#1 -- Green -- all is well, no perceived threats.
#2 -- Amber -- Your spider sense is tingling -- check the area to see if there is a possible escape.
#3 -- Red -- imminent death or bodily harm -- Hope it doesn"t get to this. Protection mode.

In average stay somewhere between green and amber -- ever aware.

It is the rule of stupid cubed, if you go to stupid places, at stupid times, with stupid people, bad things will happen. Follow the rule of stupid, always be aware of your surroundings, and always carry, as a last resort, just in case.

My problem is I ain't got much ass so carrying one of the 1911s I'm constantly having to pull my pants up because they start sagging.

Get you and your loved ones to safety.

If that is not possible, only then stand your ground.

I agree with this in principle, however that is a decision you may have to make in a split second. For instance, you're stuck in traffic and you see someone coming who you think may be trying to carjack you. Do you evacuate the vehicle with your family or do you take out your weapon and assume a defensive stance while cautioning your family, friends, or ? to get as low as possible in the vehicle? Or you are standing outside a restaurant in the dark waiting for a table in 80 degree weather. A guy is coming across the parking lot in a heavy coat that goes down to his knees and he isn't the friendly looking type....

The problem is there is no one size fits all situation for a self defense situation. We have to make decisions based on very little information, using our gut instincts, with others possibly depending on us, with the best weapon we have at hand, knowing there will be legal consequences at the end. I don't envy cops in this situation and they are trained - for the rest of us we can be pretty brave as the Alpha males we see ourselves as on sites like this, but we never really know how we will react in real life until it happens...

Bob

Suspenders Roger

Kahr PM 9 in a pocket holster is easy to conceal not very fast to draw from when seated in the truck though. Never even looked at a .380 because the Kahr is plenty small enough for me.

I'm all about retreat if possible but a bad knee and back have lowered the bar about what presents the possibility of grave harm to myself.

Part of any answer will depend on what state you happen to be in....for example, in WI we have 'have no duty to retreat'... Yet, in MN, one must run/hide/retreat until nothing left is available except deadly force...


If some sob is comin' at me with some kind of weapon, he (or it) is gonna have a really, really bad day.. Just sayin'.

Boy I wish this didn't describe me!

Short and squatty,
All gut and no butt.

Ride a bicycle like ol' Barnyard Paul. That'll get them glutes sticking out there. The girls will love you!

Good Fugking God.

I always thought that if someone were trying to abduct me, I'd just chit my britches. I figure they'd soon ditch me for a better smelling victim.

Aha, the reptile maneuver !

It never ceases to crack me up when guys talk about "hard to conceal" or "summer wear". Hell, it's summer here damn near all the time. A Carhartt
t-shirt untucked and Wrangler cargo shorts are my daily attire. I could damn near conceal a minigun under there.

I packed a 1911 daily in S Texas with such a uniform when I lived there.

Seeing what other white Christian straight men go through if they defend themselves with a concealed firearm I’ll do everything I can to extricate my family (first) and myself (second) safely without firing a shot (third).

Those are my priorities, in order of importance.

Even Sun Tzu said the best battle is one you never have to fight! (or something like that, ha) My minimum is a S&W snubby (158+P LHC) in a Mika Pocket holster. EDC is a G23. Last and best thing I bought was "Concealed Carry Insurance". You don't want to have to defend yourself with a local ambulance chaser lawyer on your own dime!

PS Work all this out beforehand, if you can. Too many unknowns and you will hesitate...very bad for you.

Been wearing them under a tee shirt for a few years...

I'll only add a GOOD belt and holster do wonders for toting fight stopping pistols. I tote a streamlight so I can see and spare mags so I can shoot. The "not being there" is the safest play. Your in Oregon well-known enclave of liberals so you should move away.

I'm going to do everything I can to avoid and GTFO.

I 285. I have spent many hundreds of hours driving this road. You don't recall which exit it was, do you?