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I guess you could download a .22-250 Rem, but wouldn't it be nice if someone made a .22 cartridge with long barrel life, specifically for short .308 length bolt actions?
A long narrow case would allow for more magazine capacity. Every bolt action maker could chamber for it without modifying their actions to suit the .223 Rem.
Would it sell?
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Think you just described the .223
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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Think you just described the .223 Yeah but the .223 isn't chambered in Winchester Model 70 CRF rifles for a reason. Better a cartridge designed to cycle and feed in a short action big game rifle than kludging a tiny case into the role. No?
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? The .223 does not function in a CRF action?
Please don't feed the trolls!
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Not sure what you're talking about?.... Ruger Hawkeye in .223 rem. It's a CRF action.... A .223 Rem is a short action... Plus, why does it need to be a CRF? You do realize any M-16/AR-15 action that has been in service since Vietnam to fight wars is a pushfeed, right? To answer your question. Yes it would sell. Just like bolt action .223's sell. They are fairly popular. Todd
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Think you just described the .223 That’s what I thought. It’s just about perfect. Need bigger, get a 22-250.
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I can't figure out what the OP is looking for... I have several Winchester model 70s that are push feed, in 223... guess a barrel could be made for that chambered in a 222 Remington Mag, or a host of other cartridges..
If he is looking for a cartridge that will fit into a short action with a Model 70 CRF, or a Ruger 77 with CRF, with a .473 bolt face... the world has a 22 BR chambering available ( even if one has to go the custom barrel route), or necking down to a 22 PPC, or the Grendel necked down to 22 caliber... I think that is commercially on the market, but I have no need for one, so I'm not all up on it...
Then Nosler has that little Valkyrie case its been pushing, on what ever other cartridge that is based off of... Federal chambers it besides Nosler...
I ended up with a couple hundred pieces of brass that are brand new, not used... that are made by Lapua, that are the Russian 7.62 x 39 necked down to 22 caliber, but they aren't head stamped 22 PPC...Ruger use to chamber that round in a Model 77 Varmint set up.. in both 22 cal and 6mm.
These are all smaller than a 22.250 if that is too big for what he is looking for....myself, I'd just tend to load a 22.250 down if I wanted less HP...
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OP needs to track down a Kimber Montana.
Good luck!
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Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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CRF short action for .223?
Find a CZ527 before the supply dries up.
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Philthegyezer: I think the Remington Arms Corporation started making the Rifle you described in 1964 (58 years ago!)! At least thats about when I bought one. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy P.S.: Did I misunderstand your posting?
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If I was going to do a 22 along these lines, the answer is something in the Soviet cases. 22 Grendel, 22 PPC? And if you want CRF, a 527. Or you could go with a Ruger American if they have Americans in whateverX39. By the way, I also have a 22BR and like it, it would be fun to shorten a 98 action because it almost needs CRF with ejection Mauser style, not Rem style. But a by 39 in a standard, OR a wildcat, is probably the most rational way to go.
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Kimber Montana .223, Controlled round feed for charging coyotes...mine is very accurate too.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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A quick 1000 words,if only because I shoot it all and then some. Hint. If only as per always,bullets matter MOST. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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He's talking about a cartridge that fits a .473 bolt face yet gives .223 ballistics for those of you geniuses with comprehension shortcomings. Sheesh.
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Joan, I see you yet again "forgot" about your "heralded" Imaginary Pretend Ignore...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Not that your Brokedick Dumbfhuqktitude ain't fhuqking HILARIOUS. Hint. Pardon a 22 and 243 BR being .473",as you feverishly GoogleFu your next Day Dreaming Delusion. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint. This makes it a BIG Day for you,as now you can say you've "seen" one. Pardon the bore size stumping you and your Minimum Wage "means". Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING! Pardon my simply shooting it all and then some,as you set astride your Couchbound Kchunt and rattle Pom-Pom's. Hint Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Stick, The reason I would want CRF is extraction, not feeding. I've had issues with both the BR and Fireball extracting, basically the spring ejector parks the case sideways in the action ring unless you YANK the bolt back fast enough. I sort of like, in my leisurely way when I'm not defending a charge, being able to just grab the fired case off the bolt face without ejecting it.
Up hills slow, Down hills fast Tonnage first and Safety last.
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I love that Blackheart can decipher that schidt sandwich like a pro!!!!
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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In fairness,don't slight Joan's Bumbling Brokedicktitude,as her net "worth" is farrrrrr less than a day's pay. Hint.
I reckon I've more than a dozen Grendel/BR's on Push Feeds and have yet to "note" and extraction "issue". That despite bolt velocity and I'm hard on schit. Hint.
My CRF's have NO "advantage" there and I prefer Push Feed simplicity,mainly because I fhuqking shoot it all and then some. Hint.
Just sayin'....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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