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Gophers And A Couple 17s #17242622 05/12/22
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,557 Bozeman, MT shrapnel OP Campfire Ranger
OP shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,557 Bozeman, MT	Being retired is everything you want it to be if you live in Montana and enjoy hunting/shooting. The weather was cool in the morning, but near noon, it was beautiful. I threw 3 varmint rifles in the truck and headed out in search of gophers. The little ones are out and made for several doubles and a triple or two. The guns I shot were the 17 CCM, which is a centerfire 17 that does about what the 17 WSM does, yet it is reloadable. And the potent 17 Hornet. The gophers didn't know what hit them...

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Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s shrapnel #17242641 05/12/22
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,822 South Dakota B BKinSD Campfire Regular
BKinSD Campfire Regular B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,822 South Dakota	Looks like fun for a kid or a retired guy or really anyone at all! "Miss Jean Louise, stand up. Your father's passin.'"

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s shrapnel #17242643 05/12/22
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,153 WI. R Redneck Campfire Kahuna
Redneck Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 59,153 WI.	I've honestly never heard of a 17 CCM.. What's it based on? Only .17 I have is the .17 Remington - and it's one of my most favorite varmint rifles. Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69 Pro-Constitution. LET'S GO BRANDON!!!

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s Redneck #17242717 05/12/22
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,557 Bozeman, MT shrapnel OP Campfire Ranger
OP shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,557 Bozeman, MT	Originally Posted by Redneck I've honestly never heard of a 17 CCM.. What's it based on? Only .17 I have is the .17 Remington - and it's one of my most favorite varmint rifles. It is between a 17 HMR and 17 Hornet. It is a centerfire cartridge and quite efficient...

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s shrapnel #17242750 05/12/22
Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,391 Montana J Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna
Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,391 Montana	I sure love my .17's. Nice work. I am MAGA.

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Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s shrapnel #17242763 05/12/22
Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,391 Montana J Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna
Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,391 Montana	Is the 22 CCM based on an existing case? Looks cool. I like my new 17HMR...but it's expensive to shoot. I am MAGA.

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s Redneck #17242795 05/12/22
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 3,327 The swamps of SW Wyoming B BayouRover Campfire Tracker
BayouRover Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 3,327 The swamps of SW Wyoming	Originally Posted by Redneck I've honestly never heard of a 17 CCM.. What's it based on? Only .17 I have is the .17 Remington - and it's one of my most favorite varmint rifles. These links might give you a path to follow...... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.17_CCM https://loaddata.com/Cartridge/22-CCM-22-Cooper-Centerfire-Magnum-Accurate-Loading-Guide-2/4751 https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?12805-Bullshop-22-CCM http://www.saubier.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35280 It's official. I missed the selfie deadline so I'm Maser's sock puppet because rene and the Polish half of the fubar twins have decided that I am. ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ μολὼν λαβέ

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s Jim_Conrad #17242857 05/12/22
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,557 Bozeman, MT shrapnel OP Campfire Ranger
OP shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,557 Bozeman, MT	Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad Is the 22 CCM based on an existing case? Looks cool. I like my new 17HMR...but it's expensive to shoot. Nope, Dan Cooper designed it from a 22 CCM case which was a Cooper originated cartridge by Mike Hill. The CCM stands for Cooper Centerfire Magnum. The belt on the case is not distinguishable as it is on most magnum chamberings...

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s shrapnel #17242880 05/12/22
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,196 Elizabeth, CO T TRnCO Campfire Regular
TRnCO Campfire Regular T Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,196 Elizabeth, CO	Heck yeah. I'm starting in on the prairie dogs this weekend too. The .17's will be put to work for sure. Laws aren't preventative measures. In other words, more laws won't prevent gun crime from happening.

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s shrapnel #17242927 05/12/22
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 15,541 The Great Southwest CCCC Campfire Ranger
CCCC Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 15,541 The Great Southwest	Nice post. Wish I had a nickel for every 25 gr. sent through a PD by my .17 Rem. over the past 30 years. NRA Member - Life, Benefactor, Patron

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Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s shrapnel #17243030 05/12/22
Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,391 Montana J Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna
Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,391 Montana	I would be extremely interested in a .17ccm. I am MAGA.

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s shrapnel #17243282 05/12/22
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 10,430 The Treasure State Dave_Skinner Campfire Outfitter
Dave_Skinner Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2003 Posts: 10,430 The Treasure State	Anyone tried a .17/FiveSeven? On a mini mini Mouser? Up hills slow, Down hills fast Tonnage first and Safety last.

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s shrapnel #17243390 05/12/22
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 23,034 SW Montana V VarmintGuy Campfire Ranger
VarmintGuy Campfire Ranger V Joined: May 2003 Posts: 23,034 SW Montana	Shrapnel: Great photos depicting your great hobby! Thanks for posting them. In the past month I have kill't numerous Gophers using three different 17 HMR Varmint Rifles, two different 17 Mach2 Rifles, two different 17 WSM Rifles (these two were friends semi auto 17 WSM's), a 17 HMR revolver (S&W Model 647 with Burris 7 power scope), my favored Ruger 77/17 Hornet V/T and finished off a partial box of 17 Remington factory ammo in my rare Remington 700 VSS in 17 Remington (Varmint Synthetic Steel) and also let fly with my Remington 700 VSF in 17 Remington Fireball and my handloads. My point being I am about to declare the 17 calibers (both rimfire and centerfire!) the top "caliber choice" for these plentiful Varmints. Have not used or seen afield a 17 CCM - that sounds VERY interesting - is that a standard Cooper offering? Thanks again for sharing your great photos. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s shrapnel #17243598 05/12/22
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,557 Bozeman, MT shrapnel OP Campfire Ranger
OP shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,557 Bozeman, MT	I have 5 17's; 17 Remington in Harrington and Richardson Model 317 Ultra Varmint 17 HMR in Browning T bolt 17 HMR in Cooper model 57 17 Hornet in Cooper model 38 17 Remington in Cooper model 21 They all are nasty on gophers...

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s shrapnel #17243623 05/12/22
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,109 cumminscowboy Campfire Tracker
cumminscowboy Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,109	Try a 17 fireball with a suppressor. It’s magic. The recoil and blast is almost all the way removed. It’s been known to disappear small flying varmints with 20 v max @4100 fps. The suppressor is the secret sauce

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s shrapnel #17243754 05/12/22
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 15,541 The Great Southwest CCCC Campfire Ranger
CCCC Campfire Ranger Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 15,541 The Great Southwest	Have you ever encountered a .17 Javelina? NRA Member - Life, Benefactor, Patron

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s CCCC #17244466 05/12/22
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,557 Bozeman, MT shrapnel OP Campfire Ranger
OP shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,557 Bozeman, MT	Originally Posted by CCCC Have you ever encountered a .17 Javelina? Never encountered, but I have heard of it. Dies and brass are always hard to find for such obscure cartridges…

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s cumminscowboy #17244500 05/12/22
Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,391 Montana J Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna
Jim_Conrad Campfire Kahuna J Joined: May 2016 Posts: 60,391 Montana	Originally Posted by cumminscowboy Try a 17 fireball with a suppressor. It’s magic. The recoil and blast is almost all the way removed. It’s been known to disappear small flying varmints with 20 v max @4100 fps. The suppressor is the secret sauce Suppressors are gayer'n aids. Just sayin... I am MAGA.

Re: Gophers And A Couple 17s shrapnel #17244577 05/12/22
Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 19,618 Central Valley NorKal FatCity67 Campfire Ranger
FatCity67 Campfire Ranger Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 19,618 Central Valley NorKal	Squirrels and beavers, git some... "Maybe we're all happy." "Go to the sporting goods store. From the files, obtain form 4473. These will contain descriptions of weapons and lists of private ownership."

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Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,680 Fairbanksan in Aleutian Hell stevelyn Campfire Ranger
stevelyn Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,680 Fairbanksan in Aleutian Hell	I love my .17HMR. Z

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