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Copy. I was looking on the WC site.
All the questions asked by me and others are answered on the NEWULTRALIGHTARMS.COM site.
Hit “MENU” and drive the site from there. yea-I was looking at the wilson as well...
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why does that put you out of the market...you need to read more of this thread and go to the web site a custom lop is 50 dollars extra but available
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I know this is the 24hr Campfire, but there is no reason to be snarky.
The website says that, yes, and when I talked to Mr. Forbes a year ago I could have the LOP I wanted, but Mr. Wilson just wrote he is now sticking with 13" and to adjust your hold if that is too short. So yes I have been following the thread. It does look as though if a person orders one he/she can get a LOP they want, but those that are sold retail will have a 13" LOP. If that is incorrect please correct.
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Brother, this is the Land-of-Snarky. It just is. I know this is the 24hr Campfire, but there is no reason to be snarky.
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13” LOP is short for me! I would not be interested in a rifle with that sort of LOP.
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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13” LOP is short for me! I would not be interested in a rifle with that sort of LOP. Were you interested in NULAs 8 days ago when they offered customs lengths? All last week I was so excited to call Melvin this morning and place my order for an 18" .308. On Saturday night I decided to do some reading and learned I won't be talking to Melvin after all. For me the, the first $2400 was the rifle itself while the second $2400 was getting an original work of art by a master. Not sure how I feel now that Melvin's hands won't be involved. I wonder if the sale will trigger some NULAs coming out of the safes and onto the auction sites for 'cast & see' prices?
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So all model 20’s are going to be #1 contour?
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OK, did some research on this LOP issue that so many seem to have their panties in a wad over.....
We currently have 80 guns on order, the requested LOP ranges from 12.5" to 14.25" with an average of 13.39" with the most frequently ordered LOP being 13.25"
So we're going to change the "standard" LOP to 13.25"
As to contours we are working on that, but will probably be something kinda between a #1 and #2. On lightweight AR barrels we've had good accuracy with straight contour barrels as thin as a .150" sidewall (Example: .308 .610" dia.). With the popularity of threaded muzzles we'll obviously have to increase the diameter before the threads on a .610" barrel up to .740" like we do on AR barrels to allow for a shoulder if threaded 5/8-24.
Thanks for the interest and please be patient, as more info becomes available we will update the NULA website.
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hang in their Bill its the internet where you can get information if you want or be snarky i guess...but thanks for keeping a great rifle platform alive
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For decades, Remington used 13 3/8" as standard on the 700. Always seemed like a sensible number. Right on your 13.39" average. Depending on stock design, 13.2-13.6" seems sensible as a standard starting point.
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Just got off the phone with Lamar at Wilson Combat. If they have someone this patient and knowledgeable answering phones I would bet it is a reflection of their culture of hiring and training.
After speaking with Lamar, I'm super optimistic NULA fans are in great hands with WC. The WC emploees just found out about this last week so Lamar has to get back to me on a couple questions before placing my order.
Imagine if Melvin sold to Kel-Tec.
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Don’t run Mr Wilson off now. LOL
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hang in their Bill its the internet where you can get information if you want or be snarky i guess...but thanks for keeping a great rifle platform alive +1 And thank you for the reply regarding contour.
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We live in the salad days of bullet, powder and rifle technology.
It great to be alive.
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I vote to add 6mm ARC to the short 20s -- I would be in line ASAP
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Something about WC's purchase and Bill being a former watchmaker gives me great comfort about NULA's future. I am, however, hoping that a Lefty isn't too far off in the distance. Well done, Melvin and Bill.
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Glad to hear this.
As to 13.25" LOP - spot on perfect for me. The last several McM stocks have all been 13.25 LOP.
I could get real excited about a 284 Win in shortish action.
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13.25" is still a little short. I've been adding 1" recoil pads on Remington stocks. I'd prefer 14" or more myself
I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally
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OK, did some research on this LOP issue that so many seem to have their panties in a wad over.....
We currently have 80 guns on order, the requested LOP ranges from 12.5" to 14.25" with an average of 13.39" with the most frequently ordered LOP being 13.25"
So we're going to change the "standard" LOP to 13.25"
As to contours we are working on that, but will probably be something kinda between a #1 and #2. On lightweight AR barrels we've had good accuracy with straight contour barrels as thin as a .150" sidewall (Example: .308 .610" dia.). With the popularity of threaded muzzles we'll obviously have to increase the diameter before the threads on a .610" barrel up to .740" like we do on AR barrels to allow for a shoulder if threaded 5/8-24.
Thanks for the interest and please be patient, as more info becomes available we will update the NULA website. Looking forward to your influence on the rifle. The NULA stock is 7-8 oz. more than the Manners Classic Ultralight. That's weight that could go into the barrel. Also, with a no. 1 or even no. 2 contour barrel, the fore-end has waaay too much meat around the barrel as it does around the action. Be great if you could slim up the stock a bit. TIA and good luck.
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