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Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
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"Another sad little secret....most SRO's are worthless old phuggs that are their to ride out their last couple of years. They usually pawn off actual police work to actual cops.

Just think of the old boomer at your job that won't retire.....that's your avg. SRO."

Jackson Handy you are correct. Young badass cops want to be on the SWAT team, they want action. Imagine how boring it would be as a school resource officer.



Another boomer hating dumbass. The SRO at the school 300 ft from my house is about 40-42. The alternate is roughly the same age. I know them both. Heard they are no longer directly attached to po-po dept. Completely separate entity.

PS- there aren't many young badass cops. I know a few. Most are ball-less unless in numbers and are there for the pinchin and "going home tonight".

I said most. Not all, genius. I know some good SROs, but most are lazy, fat, old heads...




Wasn't talking to you, genius.


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And we still don't know why that teacher left that door open.

?????


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
And we still don't know why that teacher left that door open.

?????

I see nothing sinister.

I’m in a public high school, doors get propped open all the time. Mostly by the students, and usually un-propped by teachers and staff, who generally have keys/swipe ID’s to get in.

Anytime where you have a situation where “no you can’t get back in here, you have to walk all the way around the building instead” you’re gonna have doors propped open.

Add to that that years go by with nothing bad happening. People get complacent


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The biggest mistake early on was making that school cop the "incident commander".

While he would be the incident commander initially he should have been relieved very quickly.

Sounds like some very serious training issues with that department. Lack of planning and no training scenarios. Just small town cops who at the most write a ticket or bust a kid smoking pot. This, way outside their wheelhouse.



This monster did not just spring out of the sea like Godzilla. This monster grew directly under the nose of parents, teachers and community.

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The biggest mistake early on was making that school cop the "incident commander".

While he would be the incident commander initially he should have been relieved very quickly.

Sounds like some very serious training issues with that department. Lack of planning and no training scenarios. Just small town cops who at the most write a ticket or bust a kid smoking pot. This, way outside their wheelhouse.
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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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And we still don't know why that teacher left that door open.

?????

I see nothing sinister.

I’m in a public high school, doors get propped open all the time. Mostly by the students, and usually un-propped by teachers and staff, who generally have keys/swipe ID’s to get in.

Anytime where you have a situation where “no you can’t get back in here, you have to walk all the way around the building instead” you’re gonna have doors propped open.


Add to that that years go by with nothing bad happening. People get complacent



And therein lies the problem..


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
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And we still don't know why that teacher left that door open.

?????

I see nothing sinister.

I’m in a public high school, doors get propped open all the time. Mostly by the students, and usually un-propped by teachers and staff, who generally have keys/swipe ID’s to get in.

Anytime where you have a situation where “no you can’t get back in here, you have to walk all the way around the building instead” you’re gonna have doors propped open.


Add to that that years go by with nothing bad happening. People get complacent



And therein lies the problem..
And did the shooter know that door would probably propped open?
The thing is, is that it appears that a teacher looked out that door, called 911, went back inside, and didn't shut the door.

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Originally Posted by Moto_Vita
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by local_dirt
And we still don't know why that teacher left that door open.

?????

I see nothing sinister.

I’m in a public high school, doors get propped open all the time. Mostly by the students, and usually un-propped by teachers and staff, who generally have keys/swipe ID’s to get in.

Anytime where you have a situation where “no you can’t get back in here, you have to walk all the way around the building instead” you’re gonna have doors propped open.


Add to that that years go by with nothing bad happening. People get complacent



And therein lies the problem..
And did the shooter know that door would probably propped open?
The thing is, is that it appears that a teacher looked out that door, called 911, went back inside, and didn't shut the door.




Sure sounds like shooter knew exactly which door to go to. He wasn't fumbling around trying other doors, was he?


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The monster had help, but we're never going to know which alphabet soup agency, or which drug cartel financed and coached him. Either way, the "lone wolf deranged bad guy" (Lee Harvey Oswald) scenario doesn't pass the smell test.


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Originally Posted by Moto_Vita
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by local_dirt
And we still don't know why that teacher left that door open.

?????

I see nothing sinister.

I’m in a public high school, doors get propped open all the time. Mostly by the students, and usually un-propped by teachers and staff, who generally have keys/swipe ID’s to get in.

Anytime where you have a situation where “no you can’t get back in here, you have to walk all the way around the building instead” you’re gonna have doors propped open.


Add to that that years go by with nothing bad happening. People get complacent



And therein lies the problem..
And did the shooter know that door would probably propped open?
The thing is, is that it appears that a teacher looked out that door, called 911, went back inside, and didn't shut the door.

My understanding is there was only one teacher, a guy (not too many guys on staff at most elementary schools) who was out in the parking lot and who called 911 about the shooter wrecking his truck in the drainage ditch in back of the school.

The shooter opened fire on the building from the parking lot before he gained access, not the action of someone who knew he could walk right in.

That same teacher, still outside, was apprehended as a suspect by the first SRO to arrive on the scene. At that point the shooter entered the building.


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by Moto_Vita
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by local_dirt
And we still don't know why that teacher left that door open.

?????

I see nothing sinister.

I’m in a public high school, doors get propped open all the time. Mostly by the students, and usually un-propped by teachers and staff, who generally have keys/swipe ID’s to get in.

Anytime where you have a situation where “no you can’t get back in here, you have to walk all the way around the building instead” you’re gonna have doors propped open.


Add to that that years go by with nothing bad happening. People get complacent



And therein lies the problem..
And did the shooter know that door would probably propped open?
The thing is, is that it appears that a teacher looked out that door, called 911, went back inside, and didn't shut the door.

My understanding is there was only one teacher, a guy (not too many guys on staff at most elementary schools) who was out in the parking lot and who called 911 about the shooter wrecking his truck in the drainage ditch in back of the school.

The shooter opened fire on the building from the parking lot before he gained access, not the action of someone who knew he could walk right in.

That same teacher, still outside, was apprehended as a suspect by the first SRO to arrive on the scene. At that point the shooter entered the building.




Nothing has changed. We're still at the idiot left the door open..


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Any word on why/how the truck got wrecked?


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Any word on why/how the truck got wrecked?[/quote]

The kid didn't know how to drive, never had a license.

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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by Moto_Vita
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by local_dirt
And we still don't know why that teacher left that door open.

?????

I see nothing sinister.

I’m in a public high school, doors get propped open all the time. Mostly by the students, and usually un-propped by teachers and staff, who generally have keys/swipe ID’s to get in.

Anytime where you have a situation where “no you can’t get back in here, you have to walk all the way around the building instead” you’re gonna have doors propped open.


Add to that that years go by with nothing bad happening. People get complacent



And therein lies the problem..
And did the shooter know that door would probably propped open?
The thing is, is that it appears that a teacher looked out that door, called 911, went back inside, and didn't shut the door.

My understanding is there was only one teacher, a guy (not too many guys on staff at most elementary schools) who was out in the parking lot and who called 911 about the shooter wrecking his truck in the drainage ditch in back of the school.

The shooter opened fire on the building from the parking lot before he gained access, not the action of someone who knew he could walk right in.

That same teacher, still outside, was apprehended as a suspect by the first SRO to arrive on the scene. At that point the shooter entered the building.
The lawsuits will probably start filing Tuesday, that may shed some light on things.

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The monster had help, but we're never going to know which alphabet soup agency, or which drug cartel financed and coached him. Either way, the "lone wolf deranged bad guy" (Lee Harvey Oswald) scenario doesn't pass the smell test.

I think it is obvious, every one is looking right at it, and don't see a thing, because they are listening to the media and the bullschitt they are reporting.....

The DNCC has been to need media attention pulled off all of their screw ups from the Biden Administration over the last 6 months...

nothing shifts gears like it being time to go after ' gun control' once again.... to put media focus there...

Buffalo happened 10 days before Uvalde....

there sure are a lot of little incidences that came together to make all of this happen.... almost like it was orchestrated...

If you can't see all fingers pointing to the DNCC, and one of their clandestine support groups.... you aren't paying attention...

That is 10 dead adults in Buffalo and 2 dead teachers and 19 dead elementary school kids dead in Texas... all in less than 2 weeks...

What is being reported is about as believable as how the democRats in the last election, got like 30 million votes for Joe Biden, being the "largest voter turn out for a Candidate in American history" as they had the media report....

That makes 12 adults and 19 kids murdered by the DNCC in the month of May. What have they got in store for us all in June?
and ALL for political benefits.... nothing else....

and yeah, how convenient that a certain door was open, for a certain trespasser with an AR could find just when they needed entry to a locked school building.. and then the "incident commander" had everyone stand down for an hour, before doing anything about this....

the odds for this being true are about as true as me finding a $2 bill on the ground at a local store and buying a lottery ticket and find myself $500K richer the next morning....

which one of us or our children and grand children are next gentlemen??


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
My understanding is there was only one teacher, a guy (not too many guys on staff at most elementary schools) who was out in the parking lot and who called 911 about the shooter wrecking his truck in the drainage ditch in back of the school.

The shooter opened fire on the building from the parking lot before he gained access, not the action of someone who knew he could walk right in.

That same teacher, still outside, was apprehended as a suspect by the first SRO to arrive on the scene. At that point the shooter entered the building.

That's an assumption and not an answer.

I think when 20 kids get murdered in a fish bowl everyone has a right to real answers to real questions.


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Originally Posted by ol_mike
Any word on why/how the truck got wrecked?

That's an excellent question and the media seems to have already filed it next to the Supreme Court opinion being leaked.


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Any word on why/how the truck got wrecked?

I saw the interview with the grandfather and he said he was supposed to teach the punk how to drive, but the kid kept blowing him off.

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Someone posted this pic up in the last day or two on a thread.


If this is their SWAT team they seem well armed and equipped....


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Originally Posted by renegade50
Someone posted this pic up in the last day or two on a thread.


If this is their SWAT team they seem well armed and equipped....


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That is a mute point when you have an incident commander who won't let a response team go in.

It doesn't sound like the UPD SWAT team was even deployed, as the team that was assembled on the incident site only had a couple of them, a Zavala County deputy, and 3 BORTAC from border patrol.

Sounds like SWAT teams need to be like Fire Departments... Subject to being on call with a rapid response time.

Not only that, but put someone in charge who knows enough to send the hammers in after the nail.


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