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I am always way more of an accuracy fanatic. Maybe already have the answer in my safe. I've shot a few deer with the 10mm. I was impressed. My current 10mm are a Kimber Target in stainless. Shot a buck with it and a 180XTP handload. It's very accurate. The other is the XDm 5.25". I added a few springs and it's also very accurate.
For a time (currently also) I was hung up on wanting a 6" long slide 10. Everyone drank all the 10mil Kool Aid available. All the Flat Landers now seem to need Bear Protection in Iowa and Ohio I guess? They in general seem rather difficult to find in any flavor.
Remington made a 6" for a short time. Kimber made/makes a 6" though they're not easy to find. Enter Dan Wesson.....couple 6" options. But the price tag....wow! I am a Lefty so the few extra bucks would see warranted for the Kodiak and ambi right out of the box, as it's mandatory for me. The Bruin would be an Add On.
Springfield made a 6" for a bit, but I no longer see it listed. At 50 my eyes have faded. A large reason I am wanting a longer sight radius. A RMR may be a need addition, but not mandatory at this time. Nice, crisp adj target sights still get hit out to 50 yards for me/for now.
The Glock G40 is a No Go for me. Had one. Just couldnt like it. Yes it checks a ton of the boxes.....6" barrel. MOS ready. But to me....the real accuracy in a handgun comes from the trigger. Any plastic pistol, even after being replaced and tweaked, just doesnt have a 1911 or single action revolver type of trigger and accuracy potential.
Any die hard 10 mil fans have experience? Are the Dan Wesson 10s REALLY that accurate? Everything I read says they're put together very well. But are they accurate?
If you're the typical YouTube content creator where you test a handgun with WalMart white box at 5 yards in your pile of horse manure outside your chicken coop...you probably don't have the credentials I'm looking for.
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I am always way more of an accuracy fanatic. Maybe already have the answer in my safe. I've shot a few deer with the 10mm. I was impressed. My current 10mm are a Kimber Target in stainless. Shot a buck with it and a 180XTP handload. It's very accurate. The other is the XDm 5.25". I added a few springs and it's also very accurate.
For a time (currently also) I was hung up on wanting a 6" long slide 10. Everyone seems to have no drank all the 10mil Kool Aid available. All the Flat Landers now seem to need Bear Protection in Iowa and Ohio I guess? They in general seem rather difficult to find in any flavor.
Remington made a 6" for a short time. Kimber made/makes a 6" though they're not easy to find. Enter Dan Wesson.....couple 6" options. But the price tag....wow! I am a Lefty so the few extra bucks would see warranted for the Kodiak and ambi right out of the box, as it's mandatory for me. The Bruin would be an Add On.
Springfield made a 6" for a bit, but I no longer see it listed. At 50 my eyes have faded. A large reason I am wanting a longer sight radius. A RMR may be a need addition, but not mandatory at this time. Nice, crisp adj target sights still get hit out to 50 yards for me/for now.
The Glock G40 is a No Go for me. Had one. Just couldnt like it. Yes it checks a ton of the boxes.....6" barrel. MOS ready. But to me....the real accuracy in a handgun comes from the trigger. Any plastic pistol, even after being replaced and tweaked, just doesnt have a 1911 or single action revolver type of trigger and accuracy potential.
Any die hard 10 mil fans have experience? Are the Dan Wesson 10s REALLY that accurate? Everything I read says they're put together very well. But are they accurate?
If you're the typical YouTube content creator where you test a handgun with WalMart white box at 5 yards in your pile of horse manure outside your chicken coop...you probably don't have the credentials I'm looking for. My buddy has one of those Dan Wesson 10mm $1500 dollar pistol. It will not feed the buffaloe bore 220gr ammo. But you know what pistol will my Glock 20..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I have a 6" Rock Island Armory Utra, single-stack, and it shoots smoothly and fairly well, at least on par with the early Delta Elite I had 30 years ago. It has LPA adjustable sights (like BoMars), and a fiber-optic front sight. It is a pig to carry, and hard to find a decent holster for (it has an under-rail for lights/doodads). It also has an ambidextrous safety, which you wanted. Out of box, it has the best trigger of the eight 1911s I have on hand right now. This is, more or less, the same gun I have: https://www.armscor.com/firearms-list/pro-ultra-match-6-10mm-8rdThey can be had for a lot less than MSRP, I think I paid $925 or thereabouts a year ago.
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RIA....never considered. I will look. Thanks for the input
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I don't know if you're stuck on having a new gun, but if not, the old Peters Stahl (Springfield) Omega's are quite accurate. They normally bring about $1,100 or so on GunChoker and can be had in 5 or 6" lengths.
As far as new guns, I would suggest a Tanfoglio Witness Hunter. The trigger is not as good as a tuned 1911, but it is way nicer than a Glock.
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I am always way more of an accuracy fanatic. Maybe already have the answer in my safe. I've shot a few deer with the 10mm. I was impressed. My current 10mm are a Kimber Target in stainless. Shot a buck with it and a 180XTP handload. It's very accurate. The other is the XDm 5.25". I added a few springs and it's also very accurate.
For a time (currently also) I was hung up on wanting a 6" long slide 10. Everyone drank all the 10mil Kool Aid available. All the Flat Landers now seem to need Bear Protection in Iowa and Ohio I guess? They in general seem rather difficult to find in any flavor.
Remington made a 6" for a short time. Kimber made/makes a 6" though they're not easy to find. Enter Dan Wesson.....couple 6" options. But the price tag....wow! I am a Lefty so the few extra bucks would see warranted for the Kodiak and ambi right out of the box, as it's mandatory for me. The Bruin would be an Add On.
Springfield made a 6" for a bit, but I no longer see it listed. At 50 my eyes have faded. A large reason I am wanting a longer sight radius. A RMR may be a need addition, but not mandatory at this time. Nice, crisp adj target sights still get hit out to 50 yards for me/for now.
The Glock G40 is a No Go for me. Had one. Just couldnt like it. Yes it checks a ton of the boxes.....6" barrel. MOS ready. But to me....the real accuracy in a handgun comes from the trigger. Any plastic pistol, even after being replaced and tweaked, just doesnt have a 1911 or single action revolver type of trigger and accuracy potential.
Any die hard 10 mil fans have experience? Are the Dan Wesson 10s REALLY that accurate? Everything I read says they're put together very well. But are they accurate?
If you're the typical YouTube content creator where you test a handgun with WalMart white box at 5 yards in your pile of horse manure outside your chicken coop...you probably don't have the credentials I'm looking for. If you're an accuracy fanatic you might want to define what you deem accurate. "Hits" at 50yds are easily achieved if the target size is ample. I'd also think an accuracy nut would pursue an optic before a new pistol. But the 320XTen seems to offer a nice sight radius and trigger in the same package.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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A 6" plate at 50 would be considered accurate. At least 60% hit ratio. An 8" plate at 50 yards with 100% hit ratio. A gallon jug at 100 I would consider accurate.
Milling a 1911 slide seems to be a spendy and potentially clunky endeavor.
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The most accurate 10mm I have owned other than 610s was a Dan Wesson CBOB. It shot pretty much everything well.
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A 6" plate at 50 would be considered accurate. At least 60% hit ratio. An 8" plate at 50 yards with 100% hit ratio. A gallon jug at 100 I would consider accurate.
Milling a 1911 slide seems to be a spendy and potentially clunky endeavor. From a Ransom Rest, or benched, or yourself, or a shooter you don't know?
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I have a 6" Rock Island Armory Utra, single-stack, and it shoots smoothly and fairly well, at least on par with the early Delta Elite I had 30 years ago. It has LPA adjustable sights (like BoMars), and a fiber-optic front sight. It is a pig to carry, and hard to find a decent holster for (it has an under-rail for lights/doodads). It also has an ambidextrous safety, which you wanted. Out of box, it has the best trigger of the eight 1911s I have on hand right now. This is, more or less, the same gun I have: https://www.armscor.com/firearms-list/pro-ultra-match-6-10mm-8rdThey can be had for a lot less than MSRP, I think I paid $925 or thereabouts a year ago. An RIA Model 52000 10mm HiCap with a Novak white dot front sight and a single side thumb safety, but otherwise stock: Set up like this for 50 yards: Produced this: That’s 3-1/8” CTC. If it wasn’t for that one low shot, … yada, yada, yada.
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Am looking at 1911 version, w optics cut. Just a hunting gun.
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I’ve got the Springfield Armory TRP Operator 6” 10mm. Only made for a couple years, discontinued last year. It is well machined, and finished. Very accurate with my 180 FMJ TC bullets over Longshot. It’s heavy at 45 oz empty. I carry it in the field in a Hill People Gear chest pouch. I’m glad I purchased it.
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I am always way more of an accuracy fanatic. Maybe already have the answer in my safe. I've shot a few deer with the 10mm. I was impressed. My current 10mm are a Kimber Target in stainless. Shot a buck with it and a 180XTP handload. It's very accurate. The other is the XDm 5.25". I added a few springs and it's also very accurate.
For a time (currently also) I was hung up on wanting a 6" long slide 10. Everyone seems to have no drank all the 10mil Kool Aid available. All the Flat Landers now seem to need Bear Protection in Iowa and Ohio I guess? They in general seem rather difficult to find in any flavor.
Remington made a 6" for a short time. Kimber made/makes a 6" though they're not easy to find. Enter Dan Wesson.....couple 6" options. But the price tag....wow! I am a Lefty so the few extra bucks would see warranted for the Kodiak and ambi right out of the box, as it's mandatory for me. The Bruin would be an Add On.
Springfield made a 6" for a bit, but I no longer see it listed. At 50 my eyes have faded. A large reason I am wanting a longer sight radius. A RMR may be a need addition, but not mandatory at this time. Nice, crisp adj target sights still get hit out to 50 yards for me/for now.
The Glock G40 is a No Go for me. Had one. Just couldnt like it. Yes it checks a ton of the boxes.....6" barrel. MOS ready. But to me....the real accuracy in a handgun comes from the trigger. Any plastic pistol, even after being replaced and tweaked, just doesnt have a 1911 or single action revolver type of trigger and accuracy potential.
Any die hard 10 mil fans have experience? Are the Dan Wesson 10s REALLY that accurate? Everything I read says they're put together very well. But are they accurate?
If you're the typical YouTube content creator where you test a handgun with WalMart white box at 5 yards in your pile of horse manure outside your chicken coop...you probably don't have the credentials I'm looking for. My buddy has one of those Dan Wesson 10mm $1500 dollar pistol. It will not feed the buffaloe bore 220gr ammo. But you know what pistol will my Glock 20.. So will my Glock 40..
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The issues with inaccurate guns are usually related to the nut behind the barrel.
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Dan Wesson Razorback, 200gr Nosler, XTP and coated hard cast from Montana Bullet Works fly better than my sorry ass will ever be able to fully realize.
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I have a 6" Rock Island Armory Utra, single-stack, and it shoots smoothly and fairly well, at least on par with the early Delta Elite I had 30 years ago. It has LPA adjustable sights (like BoMars), and a fiber-optic front sight. It is a pig to carry, and hard to find a decent holster for (it has an under-rail for lights/doodads). It also has an ambidextrous safety, which you wanted. Out of box, it has the best trigger of the eight 1911s I have on hand right now. This is, more or less, the same gun I have: https://www.armscor.com/firearms-list/pro-ultra-match-6-10mm-8rdThey can be had for a lot less than MSRP, I think I paid $925 or thereabouts a year ago. An RIA Model 52000 10mm HiCap with a Novak white dot front sight and a single side thumb safety, but otherwise stock: Set up like this for 50 yards: Produced this: That’s 3-1/8” CTC. If it wasn’t for that one low shot, … yada, yada, yada. That's some good shootin'.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I have a rock that far exceeded my expectations for the money. Mine shot and fed better than my colt and shot better than my g21 with Dawson sights, kkm tube and trigger work. I finally killed it after about 2k 1300fps 200gr pills and asked rock if I could buy parts. They declined and instead fitted a new slide and barrel gratis. I'm set up to do my own machine work and really preferred to fit it myself because I have high expectations. Rock returned it in a week or two and the work was as good as can be done. Version 2.0 is silly accurate. pic hosting site
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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STI made a few 10mm's over the years. I have this one. It's my most accurate, but none of the others are far behind. I will shoot a ragged 8-shot-hole off-hand at 10 yards. It also isn't picky on ammo, mild cci-blazer aluminum 200gr. to hot reloads to LHC, it shoots them all, and all of them accurately. Embarrassingly, I have to admit, it cost over $2k, and needed work out of the box. I won't even list the issues, but needless to say it took over a year to work through them. It is now my most reliable, and accurate 10. https://secure.arnzenarms.com/produ...ble-stack-black-cerakote-tan-frame-night
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I can't believe I clicked on the RIA website...I feel dirty. That's like buying a Taurus or KelTec isn't it? I've never made a YT video even....
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