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Ross was shooting the 338/378 kt on that hunt with Elmer

The 338/378 Keith/Thompson was a 378 Wby magnum case shortened and necked to 338. Elmer developed it with Bob Thompson from Colorado.
It sent a 250gr at an easy 3000fps.

I remember reading his successful brown bear story. I can’t totally remember but I’d thought it was a 340 her used but I do remember it being a damn well written story.

Here you go OGB a picture of Ross's "Oulde Yellow."

Ha Ken, you proved me wrong! it was a Gemsbok not a Sable.... thanks buddy going by memory is getting trickier every year..

Man, I’d love to read that full article. Old school cool in those big blasters!

That's not what he told me.

It was a .375 but I could not say whether H&H or Wby.

He was showing me the fired case Elmer used and the bullet fragments of the 275gr Speer he found while dressing the spike.

Thanks Mike for posting and just for Phil, Ross was actually guiding Ol Elmer on that hunt.

Just sayin.

My mistake, We're both wrong. Ross shot his with a 375 H&H that I believe he later had converted to Weatherby

Ooh , you may be right. Elmer used the 338/378 KT. As I told Ken going by memory is getting harder... my apologies

That's why trips down memory lane are fun.

Great thread.

Just remembered a story Ross told me about visiting Elmer at his home in Salmon. They had just handloaded some ammo for one of Elmer's rifles, and decided to fire a few rounds to "check the pressure." So they headed down into the basement, which had a stack of firewood. The door to the basement was next to the kitchen, where Loraine was cooking a meal, as as they passed through Elmer said, "We're going to test some loads, mother." She was evidently used to this, so nodded, and they shot the handloads into the firewood, and decided the pressures were okay....

Hell yes. I’m enjoying the hell outta hearing about those two. The elk hunt is just icing on the cake.

The Champlin rifle is just darn cool as well. What a cool design.

I don’t believe my wife would be as keen on that, ha!

I remember that article well. The magazine is down in the basement somewhere.

I also remember reading a story where Ross used a .340 to take a bear. If I remember correctly, it was in deep snow. Like the other article, the magazine is somewhere downstairs.

As I said Ol Elmer is not exactly my favorite and I think he did some damage by convincing a large group of hunters that the .270 Win and 30-06 were not suitiable rounds for elk hunting.

That's not to say I ever skipped reading any thing Elmer wrote but time has shown he was not right.

I remember asking Ross about how well Elmer shot.

Ross said that when he got to know him Elmer was an old dude on the down hill side.

On that elk hunt Elmer spotter a porcupine in a tree about 50yds away. Everyone was on horseback.

Ol Elmer turned his horse away from the varmint and drew his 4" M29 .44 Mag.

Left hand on the reins and one hand on the revolver resulted in a dead porky and Elmer still in the saddle.

For those that ride that's not a very simple thing to accomplish.

John;
Good afternoon to you sir, I hope the day's been a good one for you and you're not in any flood zones where you're at.

Thanks for the Ross Seyfried stories, I appreciate getting the perspective on them.

If it means anything, the above story is exactly how I recall it as well and if I searched long enough I might still have it stashed away somewhere. I want to say it was in a Guns & Ammo back then.

While it's not exactly a "personal" connection with the story, it did help the "light go on" so to speak when I could not for the life of me get a .308 Norma I'd built to settle down and shoot.

Money was tight 30 years ago and sticking on a different barrel wasn't an option, so I read Ross' article a couple times, then decided I didn't have enough meat to cut a dovetail like he did, so I built a barrel band and pillar bedded it into the stock. That's what the lump that didn't rust blue quite the same as the barrel is.



It worked much, much better after that. I want to say last season was the 14th in a row that I didn't adjust a thing on it.

Thanks again for the stories and all the best.

Dwayne

That’s a helluva shot on the porcupine from a fella standing on two feet on flat ground.

Agree about the 270-06 for elk but he was probably jaded some with the common bullets out there back then which is pretty understandable. Plus when you have good results with the bigger guns it’s probably hard to go back and retry what you tried 40-50 years before.

Seyfried wrote a great one I end up Rereading now and again after he “refound” the 270 later in life.

Just cool to see how those folks came about their opinions.

Love that 308 Norma Dwayne... as you know I have a soft spot for the old Norma Mag

I made the progression up through the caliber ranks , got as far as the 338 mag. It didn't seem to kill any better than my old 270.
I told Ross of my journey and he just grinned... he came to believe in the 270W