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Is that the hamburgler gargling again?? Ya your right, sooooo fuuuucking important!! Smoked him from those pines uphill, spotted the night before, snuck in as he was headed into the thick shiit to bed for the day. Bout 40 yards. 180 spire points. Keep yappin bacon throat 😂😂😘 hamburgler.......LMAO!!!
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Bacon throat, please tell “me” more!! Your extensive elk hunting prowess is noted!!! 🤣 haha
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Fuucking laughing!……………………..
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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Is that the hamburgler gargling again?? Ya your right, sooooo fuuuucking important!! Smoked him from those pines uphill, spotted the night before, snuck in as he was headed into the thick shiit to bed for the day. Bout 40 yards. 180 spire points. Keep yappin bacon throat 😂😂😘 hamburgler.......LMAO!!! Uncle Johnny, you ever hear the dumb bastard talk?? He sounds like a hybrid of the hamburgler and a chipmunk on crack!!! Haha
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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I'd happily trade ALL away,to realize something good instead...but I actually shoot. Hint......................(grin) Ya you’d happily live on a Indian rez too dummy, doesn’t mean everyone else want too. Haha Fuucking laughing!……………….
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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This ☝🏽 all day and night. 🦫 Yep. .300 Wby just does the same thing as the .300 Win but with the next (+15-20 grain) step up in bullet weight.
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'409,
Bullet "weight" is largely moot,though COAL,integrity and BC ain't. Hint.
The 300 Wby will simply run you out of mag confines,precluding the best of that which is available projectile wise,long before a 300 Winny on a 700 receiver. Pardon my being fluent in said matters,as you gals guess aloud. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Well the original question was the .300 Win. Mag. vs the .300 Weatherby Mag., which would you choose?
I went with the Winchester .300Mag. because I wanted a Ruger #1 in any cartridge and the #1B I bought was the first one I'd ever seen. They came out in what, 1965/66 and I never saw one until mid 1975 to even look at or hold.
I worked up a nice handload running the old Nosler 200 gr. round nose Partition that shot tiny groups for me. I do sincerely with Nosler had not dropped that bullet in favor of a spitzer type. That #1 would run that bullet into groups as small as .375" if I did my part. With the current 200 gr. Speer Hot Core or Nosler 200 gr. spitzer type Partition groups are more in the .50 to .75" range.
Since then I've picked up three more Ruger #1s in the "S" model, all chambered to the .300 Win. Mag. and they all shoot at one inch or less if I do my part.
The last .300 Win. I picked up was from a fellow who needed money. It's a Winchester M70, no idea of which model, 26" barrel, An apparent McMillan blind magazine stock and a Leupold 3x9 VariX II, all for $300. It's another shooter and likes my 200 gr. handloads. It's used as my foul weather rifle as Ruger does a lousy job of sealing their wood stocked guns.
Can't say why, but I just never did have a hankering for anything Weatherby. Paul B.
Our forefathers did not politely protest the British.They did not vote them out of office, nor did they impeach the king,march on the capitol or ask permission for their rights. ----------------They just shot them. MOLON LABE
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My experience with the .300 Wby is exactly zero. Can't remember even touching one off. So take that fwiw...
I will say that I have zero complaints with the .300 Win mag. Piles of factory options, brass literally laying on the ground all over the place, 24" barrel (I hate 26"+ tubes...I don't really even like 24"s) and recoil my teenage boy can handle in a 9-10 pound rifle with no brake.
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It's tough to get giddy about 200gr sub .5 BC's in a singleshot 30cal. that can't get wet. Hint.
If only because Mechanics matter more than a "smidge",not all 300 Winny's are "equal",or even close. Big Green steals the show,due their aforementioned 3.690" COAL latitude. Winchester and Ruger can't begin to hang,if only for starters. Hint.
Weighing felt recoil to performance ratio,the 300 Winny is a rather poor choice,no matter one's age. Hint.
Not that I don't enjoy the Fascinating Dumbfhuqktitude. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Is it safe to assume long distance shots are in mind when considering those two? If I was in for a sore shoulder in 30 Cal, I would pick the 300 PRC to go long. Between those two, the Win for availability.
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I have a Sako L691 in 300 Wby and don't feel the need for a .300 Win..
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I've been looking hard at an older W German Mark V in .300 Wby, but brass seems to be much harder to source than Win Mag right now.
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I've been looking hard at an older W German Mark V in .300 Wby, but brass seems to be much harder to source than Win Mag right now. https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=300%20Weatherby%20brass&Sort=13Have you really looked? 300 Win or 300 WBY brass, who shoots a 300 enough to wear out 100 rounds of brass. I have the WBY and haven’t had any problem getting brass and I haven’t worn it out in over 15 years of hunting with it. Whatever a 300 Win can do, the 300 WBY will do it a little better…
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L691's are shorter in COAL than 700's. The Teutonic Weatherby's bring nothing to the table. Hint.
The only things a 300 Wby does "better" than a 300 Win on a 700,is recoil more,drop more,drift more and have greater ES/SD values. Hint.
At 2.825" trim length,even in the whopping Big Green OEM H&H magbox,the 300 Wby "boasts" farrrrrr less than 1" of COAL "latitude"...at .865". Google as you MUST.
Bless your hearts for trying though. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Ron designed his cartridges in order to "beat" other established cartridges. Not much thought was put into them, other than "bigger is better".
My worthless 2 cents.
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Is it safe to assume long distance shots are in mind when considering those two? If I was in for a sore shoulder in 30 Cal, I would pick the 300 PRC to go long. Between those two, the Win for availability. Not really “long” range. I’ve taken game at a bit over 400 yards. I probably won’t push that too much. I’d use this mostly on deer and elk where most shots are 200 to 300 yards. It’s open, but lots of folds in the land where you can approach fairly easily. Maybe take it on future pronghorn, caribou, or moose hunts. Probably use a 26 inch barrel since it’s not a hindrance.
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I'd happily trade ALL away,to realize something good instead...but I actually shoot. Hint......................(grin) Need any 300 Wby brass?
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For the OP's purposes either one would work just fine- just as a 30-06 or about a dozen other cartridges would...
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300 Weatherby.
The Winchester case sucks with that midget neck. IMO.
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