Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire UVALDE SCHOOL SHOOTING - Timeline and Breakdown

And you know what, if this happens again in a move house, or mall or school before the Nov Elections, the freaking LEOs AINT GOING IN AGAIN. Why? They can all claim INCOMPETENCY.

Its better than "committing suicide".

How is it 5 or 6 Capitol Hill police on duty during the Jan 6 Unsurrection happen to die "accicently" in middle age?

Clue. What? Yeah he reported in Feb that it was a inside job and died 2 days before hevwas to testify at the Jan 6 Committee Investigation.

A dayum shame.......

That was awfully hard to watch, unbelievable the incompetence that went on there.

Those who believe in these elaborate conspiracy theories have obviously lived a solitude life. Its hard enough for one person to keep their mouth shut if its a one man show. Two people can rarely keep a secret. Multiple folks, impossible.

A product of the risk adversion in the police culture from todays defund narrative.

The incompetence didn’t start with the cops. How did the shooter fire shots outside of the school and mosey his ass across the parking lot without the school staff sounding alarms and locking all the doors? Who was manning the front office? How long does it take to lock the doors and how did the teachers not know to do this? They had time.

The gunman didn’t keep his mouth shut.

That's all addressed in the timeline and video.

You should read and watch them.

I can honestly understand if someone develops that aversion. When they do, it's time to move into a different profession.

There is a link in the OP to the timeline. I missed it the first go round. It's easy to read, but hard to stomach.

Absolutely disgusting that police arrived 3 minutes after the [bleep] entered the school and allowed the [bleep] to kill children and teachers for over an hour.

I think reading the entire timeline and the assessment actually helps people absorb the situation a little better. They do a really good job of explaining doors, responses, etc.

One thing I noted was their commenting on the fact that one responder hauled ass through the parking lot instead of stopping, and walking in. If you've ever been to a schitty situation this can't be emphasized enough. You lose so much information and you disable so much natural instinct when you drive up to the door or scene.

You're almost always better walking that last 50-100yds.

It's an issue in the police culture that drives hiring and promotion. When even a good shooting can ruin a police officers life and put him on 24 hour news cycles it gets hard to hire the right kind of police officers.

When the officer was there because of the call from the funeral home employees that were shot at, you would think that a guy matching the description of the perp carrying a rifle would be engaged immediately.

But in today’s climate, if it was the wrong guy, the officer would be sued into poverty and criminally charged.

That’s why police are leaving the job

I've heard little discussion of the "averted" school shooting at that very school 4 years prior in which two "unidentified minors" were arrested. One of which would be 18 now. And the fact that his nickname was "school shooter" is unlikely coincidence. Seems like the failures weren't just that day, but rather could be traced back four years.

That makes perfect sense to me. Is that something that's taught in modern LE training?

Yes but it's not emphasized by enough instructors sufficiently.

In my opinion.

According to Mike Gs video the shot was at 148 yds and the shooter was moving.

That's a tough call to have to make and not an easy shot with a school as your backstop.

That's funny that somebody like you (who has never done anything) would note that.

I think somebody that knows what the fugk they were doing would not be asking for permission to use deadly force on the fugking radio.

Incompetent.

Period.