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I’m curious on what would be ‘Your SOP’ if you arrived on scene of an active school shooting taking place before the Calvary arrived.

LEO, and Tactical bro’s chime in, as well as the rest of the feebs who could show up at a school that’s completely involved in gunfire.

My CQB skills are for one scenario. Because the rest of the scenarios would probably not materialize, before Police are on scene.

One man, alone. Hit the school entrance door, and follow the sound of the gunfire ~ weapon up and ready, as I’m clearing my path to the shooter. Engage shooter if he’s in my path.

If he’s inside a school room, I’m staying low, below the sight line of the window in the door, and reaching up to check if the door is unlocked.

Door Locked ~ Shît! I’m stepping back, but first a quick peek through the glass door ~ No target seen. I’m taking a shooting position at an angle through the glass, as I’m kicking or pounding on the door, hoping to draw the shooter into my sights through the glass. I’m shooting through the glass, if the target shows himself.

Door Unlocked ~ Gulp, breathe and a quick self talk…”I’m gonna survive this, but I’m going through this door, ready to fight like I’m already dead….Throw the door open, going in fast, head, eyes and pistol up, looking for my target.

God willing, I can unleash hell into the POS before I take a mortal hit.

The remaining CQB tactics should only get better if there’s 2,3 or 4 of us.

I want to say, this is a cops job only, but after Uvlade….Fûck that!


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yep

Took too long, thought too much. Self talk when getting shot at gets people killed. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and everything should be instinct based on training.

Also, TacticalSh!t carries several things to defeat doors that are locked. And are legal in most states to own. I never leave the house without a bronco jimmy pry bar.


I like how specific and well thought out your write up was. Very clear And easy to follow.

Advance to the sound of the gunfire, and try to shoot the bast*rd. You might get killed. But, you may well prevail.

These school shooters are punks who do not have a strong warrior spirit. They will not stand up against a strong, ferocious attack. Even one person by himself might take the shooter out.

Any man worth being called one should at least try.

That'll never happen. He's not gonna come around looking to see who's kicking the door. He's gonna shoot you through the door and you'll die.


I'm not saying you shouldn't try. Gotta die doing something. But plans like this only work in theory and with sim rounds. As soon as real bullets are in play, a single person kicking an outward opening door dies. Every time.

What about when there's no sound of gunfire? Schools are huge and bad guys don't just fire like a metronome until you get there.

Yeah, that Uvalde nutjob was hidden in a closet in the classroom waiting on cops to breach the door.

He knows where you have to come in, but you don't have a clue where he is in there.

Need at least 3-4 on the breaching team. And at that, odds are pretty good one or more will be shot.

Poorly explained, on my part. I meant ponding or kicking at the door from an off side position.

Like you knocking on a door of a family beef, from the side, not standing directly in front of the door.

You suggesting it’s unlikely the shooter would show himself in the window, rather just fire through into the door, is again, most likely.

I’m stuck behind a locked door, though. I’m looking for some luck to happen ~ like the shooter needs to move inside the room to a position to fire on the door. While he’s moving into position, he’s exposed in the glass at whatever distance.

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Are you asking what we will do before or after we sanitize our hands?

Wait, before I crash that door, gotta check my Iphone. Got a fresh text message from that web site I just found, lonelymojadosinblue.com

The Ulvade shooter dumped 100 rounds inside the room within minutes. Many active shooters have been in gauged in firing when police were on the scene and moving in. It does happen.

As for no sounds of gun fire being heard. That’s a different, and much, much slower scenario. One guy trying to clear rooms and move ahead, clear another room, and move, would be difficult/impossible before the Calvary would have arrived en masse...Solo-man would be done and escorted out of the school, most likely. Not to mention, possibly shot dead as the shooter. Gotta die sometime, right?

But, without hearing gun fire, look for children, teachers running away from an area, and yelling out ‘where’s the shooter’? ‘How many shooters’? Could give you an idea what direction to move.

You’re a cop. How about giving us your ‘SOP’ on being alone at a school and what you’re gonna do?

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Who wants to die with dirty hands?

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LOL.

Dumbshcitt that guy was a medic getting ready to treat wounded kids. Notice no gun. Notice doctor shoes. Notice rolling up sleeves.

That guy had the worst day of his entire life and you want to second guess him for doing what might be the smartest thing on the entire video.

Key board commandos bitching about the dumbest schitt.

What kid fighting for their life want dirty hands inside them?

And it's CQB not QCB.

Shoot the fugger before he goes in the school.

He wasn’t hiding inside the closet when he cut loose his initial barrage of fire. He wasn’t in the closet when he fired again once, then once again, then firing another 4 shots. All while cops are strung out, down the hallway.

This question is about, you, being alone, at a school with an active shooter. Are you going in, and if you do, what would you do?

I’m not looking to call out heroes or pussy’s. I’m just asking what someone would do, trying to think tactically and move to find, then engage a shooter.

Uvlade showed, what not to do.

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Beav, the commander at Uvalde wrongly determined that the classrooms were a "barricaded shooter" type situation.

BAD mistake. Bad.

There were kids in there dying. Teachers were dying and bleeding to death for more than an hour.

Whenever victims/children are in the area the shooter controls, it should be an all out, no holds barred, "enter and kill" situation. Not a stand in the hallway with your thumbs up your ass, waiting for some incompetent boob to give the green light.

You should only wait for a couple of other cops to breach the area. If you are the only one there, and people are dying because the shooter needs stopped, then guess what? YOU are it.

In this Uvalde debacle, help was at hand very quickly. They should have organized and gone in. 3-4 of them. No crossfire situation.

A few others can secure the immediate perimeter to insure shooter doesn't escape, or enter other classrooms, but for Christ's sake, don't clutter the halls with puss gut cowards who have no intention of engaging the shooter.

Y'all must realize that this school shooter is not a Israeli commando badass. He is a weird, confused kid. He is real scared. He might be stoned on anti depressant drugs.
In the first big school shooting, Columbine, where the school resource officer, yes, cowered behind his patrol car while he listened to the children being killed, once the 2 punks made it into the middle of the school, when they knew the cops were coming in, they killed themselves.

Yes, of course, you go through that door you might get shot, but you might be the last thing the punk sees before he shoots himself.

I fixed my dyslexia in the original post.

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