Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Savage Collectors Definition of a "grey rat"

There ya go. And a mighty fine collection too!

It's been pretty well covered. I'll add, just because it's grey, doesn't mean it's not desirable. My 1902 Enoch Tue engraved rifle is "Greyer" than Rory's, but I find it desirable. I bet if the receiver was as blue as the barrel, I wouldn't have it.

I remember that posting but thought it was a Mad_Dog creation. (Ross emailed me the other day to see if I was still alive.)

I couldn't remember whose it was, but was sure it wasn't Mad_Dog's. It wasn't sarcastic enough to be Joe's.

To continue on the peripheral subject of originality:

I have an 1899 that letters as having been back to Savage four times, with nothing on the work orders to indicate what was done, except the first, which indicates a change of sights. The barrel is an obvious replacement, as it is later threads and address. The blue, wood, and bore are all in acceptable condition. What is it worth?

Considerations:
It is a first year 250
It has deluxe wood and checkering, with no cracks.
The bolt and lever are engine turned.
All serial numbers on metal and wood match.
All of the work orders reference the consignee, a prominent Republican politician and business man in Utica
The original consignee was J. DePew Lynch, at the time Corporate Secretary of Savage, and a man instrumental in screwing his fellow stockholders in the Seabury transaction

How do the work orders and apparent lack of originality affect the value of the rifle?

The additional work orders likely explain the non-originality.
Drag 'er along to Savage Fest and we'll have a look.

I'll stop by on Saturday and we can fix it.

Is that when you get your pension round here? 20 years and out?

Ross pops in less than me, glad to hear he’s still on this planet!

I was gonna say it was his post long ago but was only 99%.

You get a pin at 25 yrs and an urn for your ashes at 35 yrs with a plaque the states "Savage Grey Rat".

Coming up on the pin but I'll probably need the urn sooner. Oh, and I really miss Ramm. His comments could really piss some people off but his posts about 99s were pretty much always spot on. And life goes on. Sorry, I should have started another thread.

And to Mad dog, sorry I sent the cigar and airplane bottle of Scotch in the package. Wasn't trying to get you busted. Just wanted to show you some apprecation. Again,life goes on. And again, off topic.

YOU my friend are NEVER off topic about ANYTHING.

I hadn't thought much about this subject. I would have considered this rifle a gray rat but I believe it is worn or abused beyond this category. Bore isn't too hot either. Opinions on whether or not it's a gray rat would be appreciated.





I think it's cool that the Sweetwater County Sheriff's office had it at one time. The guy I got it from said he got it from a county impound auction. I wouldn't part this one out for that reason. It is also 1899 production, serial number 10.7XX.

I think that one is what the BATF had in mind when they established the C & R license.

David i would say just a RAT !!! But very early 1899

Was Frank Mahoney a local bad guy? Looks like several of the outlaw guns they have in Craig, Colorado at their Museum of the West (well-worth the stop, BTW).

I couldn't find anything on the internet about Mahoney. He had to do something wrong to get his rifle confiscated.

Yeah, I think that one exceeded the threshold. I would have to say that the GR classification should encompass working rifles and anything that didn't work couldn't be included. And I would have to include bad barrels in the "it didn't work" catagory. Grey Rats are users.

He didn't say the rifle was unable, just that the bore isn't too hot. I have rifles that don't have great bores but they will still group under 4" at 100 yards.