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Btw, if Midway got their shipment, other sellers usually do, too. If you miss them at Midway, start lookling at your preferred sellers.
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New to using a muzzle loader here. Are these ok to use with pyrodex or 777 in a .50 cal hawken??
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You'll just have to try them and see. I have never had an issue lighting loose pyrodex in a percusion side lock using #11 magnum caps. But I've not tried loose 777 in a side lock. Magnum #11s tend to be pretty hot. Maybe someone else can speak to loose 777 and #11 caps.
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Wow. Still available. I would have thought these would be out of stock faster.
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Lots of guys might pay $12 a tin for a couple or three, but not $120 for 1000.
There’s a recession, doncha know?
What fresh Hell is this?
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Well I guess when you need them. You buy what you find. I'm down to under 30 caps. So I bit the proverbial bullet.
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I have no problem with an Investarms Hawken and 777, with cci magnum caps.
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Lots of guys might pay $12 a tin for a couple or three, but not $120 for 1000.
There’s a recession, doncha know? I bit the bullet and bought 1,000. It's market price. It is what it is. Wasn't too long ago I was running low on ammo, caps, primers etc, and determined not to ever get that low again, so I buy what I need when its available.
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I have no problem with an Investarms Hawken and 777, with cci magnum caps. That's good to know. I don't use loose 777 powder, only the pellets. I understand loose 777 is easier to light than loose Pyrodex. So lighting it in a sidelock with a hot #11 make sense.
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Lots of guys might pay $12 a tin for a couple or three, but not $120 for 1000.
There’s a recession, doncha know? I bit the bullet and bought 1,000. It's market price. It is what it is. Wasn't too long ago I was running low on ammo, caps, primers etc, and determined not to ever get that low again, so I buy what I need when its available. Sorta where I was, too. I bit the bullet and bought some.
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Wow. Still available. I would have thought these would be out of stock faster. Yeah, I'm surprised they're still in stock too.
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New to using a muzzle loader here. Are these ok to use with pyrodex or 777 in a .50 cal hawken?? Saw this on a picture of a bottle of 777.
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If midway is getting them, some of the other suppliers should be soon as well. Midways price is @40 bucks over retail and they don’t qualify for their free shipping.. I’m good for a year or so. I’ll wait.
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Good to see some caps starting to show back up. $12 / 100 is rough. Hopefully as supply comes back the price will drop back to something reasonable.
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Lots of guys might pay $12 a tin for a couple or three, but not $120 for 1000.
There’s a recession, doncha know? I bit the bullet and bought 1,000. It's market price. It is what it is. Wasn't too long ago I was running low on ammo, caps, primers etc, and determined not to ever get that low again, so I buy what I need when its available. Sorta where I was, too. I bit the bullet and bought some. Me 3 like 161 shipped , with haz mat . Be here by Monday they say. Update just got an email , #11's should arrive today.. (Wednesday)
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You'll just have to try them and see. I have never had an issue lighting loose pyrodex in a percusion side lock using #11 magnum caps. But I've not tried loose 777 in a side lock. Magnum #11s tend to be pretty hot. Maybe someone else can speak to loose 777 and #11 caps. I've used both pyrodex and 777 with both magnum and regular #11 caps and never had problems except when leaving the gun loaded for days in inclement weather. But that holds true for any type black or substitute. I have one front stuffer that has a musket cap conversion nipple, and I don't see that it makes a whole lot of difference from # 11 caps. In fact, I doubt that "hot" ignition is an advantage. Could maybe start the projectile moving before the main charge has time to develop pressure? I shifted to flinters, roundballs and black powder in recent years.
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