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The fundamentals of marksmanship do not change. Doesn't matter if your artificial support is your loop sling and radius/ulna, or a Harris bipod, or a tripod, or a fallen tree, or a big rock.
With optics, sight alignment falls out of the list. But sight picture, support, natural point of aim, breathing control, trigger control, follow through, all still apply equally.
And 4 moa marksmanship "skill", will not get you very far on a prairie dog town, or many other situations. This! +1
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Marksmanship schmarksmamship. Let’s see what garand can do with this…. Oh yaaaa.👊🏻 Sexy
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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Marksmanship schmarksmamship. Let’s see what garand can do with this…. That right there is a high class rig!
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Marksmanship schmarksmamship. Let’s see what garand can do with this…. Very nice!
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The fundamentals of marksmanship do not change. Doesn't matter if your artificial support is your loop sling and radius/ulna, or a Harris bipod, or a tripod, or a fallen tree, or a big rock.
With optics, sight alignment falls out of the list. But sight picture, support, natural point of aim, breathing control, trigger control, follow through, all still apply equally.
And 4 moa marksmanship "skill", will not get you very far on a prairie dog town, or many other situations. 4 MOA... is the minimum. A good rifle and a solid field position should net < 3 MOA. The vitriol here toward basic marksmanship is appalling. And Exceptions to the Rule - don't excuse a lack of basic marksmanship skills, regardless of the crutch. ... it gets you this: GR
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The fundamentals of marksmanship do not change. Doesn't matter if your artificial support is your loop sling and radius/ulna, or a Harris bipod, or a tripod, or a fallen tree, or a big rock.
With optics, sight alignment falls out of the list. But sight picture, support, natural point of aim, breathing control, trigger control, follow through, all still apply equally.
And 4 moa marksmanship "skill", will not get you very far on a prairie dog town, or many other situations. 4 MOA... is the minimum. A good rifle and a solid field position should net < 3 MOA. The vitriol here toward basic marksmanship is appalling. And Exceptions to the Rule - don't excuse a lack of basic marksmanship skills, regardless of the crutch. ... it gets you this: GR ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/gFn7EB2.gif)
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Well played sir, well played.....
Semper Fi
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Haha gonna be here a while scott!!
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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Well played sir, well played..... ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/iX9NlJt.gif)
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The vitriol here toward basic marksmanship is appalling. There's no vitriol here against marksmanship.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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Actually, prefer cotton ripstop BDU's because I hunt and shoot mainly in the South-East or South-West, and a lot of that is in swamps, piney woods, or desert.
BDU's - are not only inexpensive, durable, roomy, light weight, and fast drying, they are also mosquito-proof.
GR Phhhhffft. A men's dress shirt from Walmart is mosquito proof. Just about any loose fitting tight weeve fabric is mosquito proof.
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Let's Go Brandon! FJB
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Didn’t we already do this charade with BC?
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my old man is 74 and still goes moose hunting with me, age and over 50 years of high seas commercial fishing & heavy construction jobs have taken a toll on his body and he needs a good solid rest for aiming & firing accurately, takes a decent bull moose every year ... I do the raking, calling & judging antlers, he shoots .....
my ol gal at 5'8" & 120 lbs fully clothed in camo gear, used my stainless Win 70 crf in 300 Win Mag, she didn't have the strength to hold aim for very long with unsupported rifle, so I'd tie wire a stick/branch to make a horizontal rifle rest at height for her comfort, she's taken some really nice bull moose out to 450 yards, so far
my son was 12 and skinny as a rail, used the same Win 70, 12 lb rifle (with scope) to take a monsta 64" bull moose, yup, off a stick wired to trees rifle rest ....
in Phagandimals view that makes them worthless hunters with a crutch & no marksmanship ....
he seems to forget that civilians hunt animals .... and the first shot needs to count, in order to kill the animal STAT ..... & that requires precise aiming that you can only attain with a solid rest
go play army somewhere else... back to the barracks toilet on your knees where you do your best work
"The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants".
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Take pictures of things loved, and things fascinating. Things killed with a rifle... are neither. So hold your breath. Marksmanship - is a skill. GR
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