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I don't know if any of you have ever had the displeasure of dicking with classified documents and materials, but it is no fun at all. Top secret crap isn't just laying around at the White House in boxes. There are clear and stringent guidelines for the labeling, packaging, access handling and storage. I can't imagine that documents with nuclear secrets are in the White House at all. If they are, they have to be kept in an approved secure room with a approved lock. Typically a vault. The vault will have to be equipped with an intrusion detection system. All access to the vault is likely to be electronically recorded. It's not like Trump would be able to go thumbing through printed top secret material willy nilly. Similarly there are controls on classified electronics documents. There is a record of every time they are accessed.
I am not saying that there's no way Trump could have worked around the controls, but something isn't passing the sniff test.
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Trump should have hidden them in Hunters Laptop. The FBI would never look there.
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Anyone notice how quiet the democrats have been since this raid? And how loudly the liberal MSM has declared "this was not a raid"? Seems like they all got together and decided how to portray this miscarriage of justice one more time for old times' sake and see how far they can push it...
This isn't over by a long shot. Garland is already catching flack from both sides and the FBI and is throwing everyone he can find under the bus to cover his butt... when November comes and the Repubs take over Congress this action will figure heavily in the investigations that will come out as quickly as the Republicans can introduce them and set up their own commissions... this could get pretty sporty before it's over.
It is also curious that Biden chose just his time to go on a vacation to an island where he can't be accessed for at least a week? Think his puppet masters were afraid he might say something stupid that might implicate them? Looks like the democrats and DC in general up to their old tricks. They need to figure out how to explain that 1. Trump had nuclear secrets for 18 months and it took them till now to get them 2. They didn't know until they bugged/had an informant - of which, I'm sure they're reluctant to burn Even the staunchest and most jaded of Dems knows the optics on this are HORRIBLE and that's why they're not chirping away about it. They may like the heat it brings but they know how bad it looks and how bad it makes Biden look - they trying to stay the cleanest pig in the pen. So true. A little late on those outdated codes. It's doubtful there is any inside mole at all. A fiction to smear Trump's people as unloyal, making him seem weak. Just a ploy.
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Dear God, that's scary. I wonder if he was planning on doing something like enabling Iran to produce nuclear weapons? lolololol Well, in 2019 there where concerns about Trump government selling/giving Nuclear information to Saudi Arabia. "Trump tried to rush the transfer of highly sensitive U.S. nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia." This was without congressional review and in potential violation of the Atomic Energy Act that restricts the export of U.S. nuclear technology. Then, Kushner, his son in law got a $2 Billion "investment" from Saudi Arabia after leaving the WH. And a few weeks ago Trump hosted a golf tournament, with a plenty of players from SA... If we are lucky, FBI has recordings of him discussing, or showing documents to these.. and maybe why DOJ chose to act now. . Thanks for the info, but your links are broken. Here are the links.... https://www.cnn.com/https://www.msnbc.comHa Ha, what a joke some people are just brainwashed by the main stream media....(not you Paul)
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In 2018 Trump signed into law that anyone doing exactly what he did gets up to 5 yrs instead of 1 yr.
Per charge. And we are talking about boxes of items.
Trump 2016: If you haven’t done anything wrong then why plead the 5th?
Trump 2022: pleads the 5th 440 times
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How believable is it that Trump would knowingly take highly classified material from the White House to his home knowing full well that he is going to be investigated until the day he dies and beyond? He's dumb enough to do that, but smart enough to have been a career criminal and successfully repeatedly duped the best LE this country has.
Now, as it has been every time they have tried to trap Trump, this doesn't pass the sniff test.
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Trump 2016: If you haven’t done anything wrong then why plead the 5th?
Trump 2022: pleads the 5th 440 times Trump is onto them now. That's why they are fighting like hell to keep him out of office again.
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Searching for Documents about Nuclear Weapons...
They know these documents are missing... and if they are found in Donald Trumps basement, he is fkuced. What a dipschiot, what documents? FBI says so? Too fuqing funny. Have you had a stroke lately?
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Searching for Documents including Nuclear Weapons...
They know these documents are missing... and if they are found in Donald Trumps basement, he is fkuced. Do you have any idea how large a nuclear weapon is? These are quite large... couldn't quickly find photos of smaller ones. ![[Linked Image from media.defense.gov]](https://media.defense.gov/2009/Apr/13/2002516661/-1/-1/0/090413-F-1234S-006.JPG) And you're claiming he had that hidden in a safe/basement. Documents, including Nuclear weapon documents. Documents, including about Nuclear weapons. Documents including information about Nuclear Weapons. Documents about Nuclear Weapons. You definitely had a stroke recently if you believe anything from the current DOJ, the special ed village idiot from fcktardia knows better.
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Latest: WSJ reports FBI found 11 classified documents..
Wonder what about... Hey retard, Trump has a top level security clearance, he is allowed to have classified documents, about that stroke?
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Did Northman vote for Joe Biden? yep
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Latest: WSJ reports FBI found 11 classified documents..
Wonder what about... Hey retard, Trump has a top level security clearance, he is allowed to have classified documents, about that stroke? He had.... But he isn't allowed to steal them from the White House.. which he did!! You are not allowed to take Top Secret Nuclear weapon documents from the secure room/safe/SCIF, in WH, and bring them home to his basement and store them in a unlocked room.
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Why come Northman never tells us what a good job Joe Biden is doing.?
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Latest: WSJ reports FBI found 11 classified documents..
Wonder what about... Hey retard, Trump has a top level security clearance, he is allowed to have classified documents, about that stroke? He had.... But he isn't allowed to steal them from the White House.. which he did!! You are not allowed to take Top Secret Nuclear weapon documents from the secure room/safe/SCIF, in WH, and bring them home to his basement and store them in a unlocked room. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/SsV4QZWX/200w.gif)
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I don't know if any of you have ever had the displeasure of dicking with classified documents and materials, but it is no fun at all. Top secret crap isn't just laying around at the White House in boxes. There are clear and stringent guidelines for the labeling, packaging, access handling and storage. I can't imagine that documents with nuclear secrets are in the White House at all. If they are, they have to be kept in an approved secure room with a approved lock. Typically a vault. The vault will have to be equipped with an intrusion detection system. All access to the vault is likely to be electronically recorded. It's not like Trump would be able to go thumbing through printed top secret material willy nilly. Similarly there are controls on classified electronics documents. There is a record of every time they are accessed.
I am not saying that there's no way Trump could have worked around the controls, but something isn't passing the sniff test. Absolutely right. Doesn’t pass the smell test. Classified Nuke documents stay in their secure vault location period. Any movement outside of this is tightly controlled. Deep State & Liberal Media saying Trump packed it into boxes and has been storing it in Florida for the last year is a joke. That stuff would never be allowed to linger for any length of time outside it’s secure vault for very long. Telling us it was in boxes in a closet at Mara Lago for months is laughable. Unfortunately many idiot stupid voters will believe it.
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Latest: WSJ reports FBI found 11 classified documents..
Wonder what about... Hey retard, Trump has a top level security clearance, he is allowed to have classified documents, about that stroke? He had.... But he isn't allowed to steal them from the White House.. which he did!! You are not allowed to take Top Secret Nuclear weapon documents from the secure room/safe/SCIF, in WH, and bring them home to his basement and store them in a unlocked room. If you believe this story that Trump boxed up Top Secret Nuke files and has been storing them in a closet in Florida for months it looks like you would believe anything the Deep State & Libtards say. It is a convenient story to try to “dupe” people into believing it. Top Secret Compartmentalized Extremely Sensitive Information stays in it’s secure vault or safe storage area.
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Absolutely right. Doesn’t pass the smell test. Classified Nuke documents stay in their secure vault location period. Any movement outside of this is tightly controlled. Deep State & Liberal Media saying Trump packed it into boxes and has been storing it in Florida for the last year is a joke. That stuff would never be allowed to linger for any length of time outside it’s secure vault for very long. Telling us it was in boxes in a closet at Mara Lago for months is laughable. Unfortunately many idiot stupid voters will believe it. So you dont know that the Government has tried for nearly two years to get these documents back?? This is again, a well documented case between Trump and Government. But because of rabid Trumpers followers, they haven't been able to do what they should have done. Which is raid him immediately they found out!! Just look how Republicans have talked about Civil War the last days because of this... If the DOJ had raided him 18 months ago, you would have gone ballistic.... So, they have tried and tried and tried and tried to get everything back through the legal system... but Trump has refused. And now they are finding Classified Documents, which is illegal to remove from their SCIFs... Documents Trump have claimed not to have.. .
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