Speaking for myself, I'd be pretty happy with your stated numbers. Seen a LOT worse running NRA Sporting Rifle High Power for 10 seasons. The 9 ring of the SR-1 is a tad over 6 moa....you'd be amazed at the number of bench wizards who can't hold 8 rds in the black offhand.
If I shoot more than ten rounds a year off a bench... I'm tuning a scope with a problem.
Folks cheat themselves out of becoming competent rifleman.
Image over substance.
Nothin' new, just a little pathetic is all.
Will take a 2-4 MOA group in the field, over a sub-MOA group off a concrete bench any day.
GR
This.
Of the last 5 elk I have killed, 4 were 60 yds or less, the 5th one was 150 yds while I was sitting with the forearm across my knee.
A light, easy handling rifle without a lot of paraphernalia hanging off of it will kill a lot of critters........
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.
< 4 MOA from Standing... ( 8" at 200 yards) < 3 MOA from Sitting... ( 9" at 300 yards) < 2.5 MOA from Prone. (10" at 400 yards)
No need to play sniper, unless you are shooting past 400 yards in the field.
Some Instruction and Practice is all that is required.
Not Available - at a store near you.
GR
"Snipers - start at Six-hundred yards.
Most hunting is done at less than Three.
GR"
So which is it?
Do you begin to be a sniper at 400 yards or 600 yards?
You have never cited any documentation to back up anything that you say.
When asked if you have a background as a sniper or any sort of professional credentials, you deliberately avoid answering.
Why should anyone give any credence to anything you say?
Your sentence right here:
"Shoot how you run in the field. Me? That's BDU's/Boots, Rifle w/ a 1-1/4" web sling, and a lightly loaded assault pack."
Well that just screams grown man who loves to play dress-up and pretend he is something and someone he is not. Yet you want to lecture others how they should be doing something, when in fact you have absolutely ZERO credentials or background to do so.
You would do well to stop lecturing others on things that you clearly are not a subject matter expert on, no matter how badly you want to be.
BTW,
I would get a kick out of you telling my former co workers that they are not real marksmen according to you, since they choose to use whatever field expedient support they can find to make a clean shot.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.
The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.
< 4 MOA from Standing... ( 8" at 200 yards) < 3 MOA from Sitting... ( 9" at 300 yards) < 2.5 MOA from Prone. (10" at 400 yards)
No need to play sniper, unless you are shooting past 400 yards in the field.
Some Instruction and Practice is all that is required.
Not Available - at a store near you.
GR
"Snipers - start at Six-hundred yards.
Most hunting is done at less than Three.
GR"
So which is it?
Do you begin to be a sniper at 400 yards or 600 yards?
You have never cited any documentation to back up anything that you say.
When asked if you have a background as a sniper or any sort of professional credentials, you deliberately avoid answering.
Why should anyone give any credence to anything you say?
Your sentence right here:
"Shoot how you run in the field. Me? That's BDU's/Boots, Rifle w/ a 1-1/4" web sling, and a lightly loaded assault pack."
Well that just screams grown man who loves to play dress-up and pretend he is something and someone he is not. Yet you want to lecture others how they should be doing something, when in fact you have absolutely ZERO credentials or background to do so.
You would do well to stop lecturing others on things that you clearly are not a subject matter expert on, no matter how badly you want to be.
BTW,
I would get a kick out of you telling my former co workers that they are not real marksmen according to you, since they choose to use whatever field expedient support they can find to make a clean shot.
< 4 MOA from Standing... ( 8" at 200 yards) < 3 MOA from Sitting... ( 9" at 300 yards) < 2.5 MOA from Prone. (10" at 400 yards)
No need to play sniper, unless you are shooting past 400 yards in the field.
Some Instruction and Practice is all that is required.
Not Available - at a store near you.
GR
"Snipers - start at Six-hundred yards.
Most hunting is done at less than Three.
GR"
So which is it?
Do you begin to be a sniper at 400 yards or 600 yards?
You have never cited any documentation to back up anything that you say.
When asked if you have a background as a sniper or any sort of professional credentials, you deliberately avoid answering.
Why should anyone give any credence to anything you say?
Your sentence right here:
"Shoot how you run in the field. Me? That's BDU's/Boots, Rifle w/ a 1-1/4" web sling, and a lightly loaded assault pack."
Well that just screams grown man who loves to play dress-up and pretend he is something and someone he is not. Yet you want to lecture others how they should be doing something, when in fact you have absolutely ZERO credentials or background to do so.
You would do well to stop lecturing others on things that you clearly are not a subject matter expert on, no matter how badly you want to be.
BTW,
I would get a kick out of you telling my former co workers that they are not real marksmen according to you, since they choose to use whatever field expedient support they can find to make a clean shot.
Was issued cotton ripstop BDU's.
Liked'em then... like'em now.
And surplus assault packs are a great size for hunting, and are rugged and inexpensive.
You don't have to like either.
You seem to be all balled up emotionally in this Marksmanship skill thing.
Your sniper persona is obviously very important to you.