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That true statement stands on its own.

If you try and look at the political spectrum in a circular fashion rather than a linear affair, you'll understand the far right and far left are pretty similar. They both crave more control of the citizenry.

It should be noted when discussing the Nazi party’s hatred for Jews that all of Europe hated Jews. The Germans just took it next level.

The idea that the Allies cared about anti-semitism in the 1930s and 1940s is laughable. That’s the whole reason they formed Israel. Nobody else wanted them, it was an inherently selfish action.

It should also be noted that the German high command revolutionized many things. One of those things that proved to be a failure was medicine. Their top doctors thought meth and cocaine were cure alls, a lot of Hitler’s decision making could have been influenced just a smidge. Toward the end of the Third Reich he was injected with speedballs on a regular basis.

But one doesn’t need to dive into the nuances that were the Third Reich. Any student of history can see what is happening in the United States today. Their coup was a success, and now they’re gonna start cleaning up.

I dunno man, look what's happened to Disney since the Jews took control. The masses still gobble that schit up. People are retards in general, I don't see much of a barrier to complete control by Jew commies.

It certainly isn't linear, but I don't see it as circular either. Probably a matrix is the best way to represent it. This simple example is relevant to the read Hayek guy above. It lacks axis labels on purpose.

Duly noted.

kwg

I see it a bit different. I see so many people turned off and they are just not engaged. My wife's family is a big example. They are so wrapped up in their little world they have put politics on auto pilot. They won't make the time for it. It's putting politics on auto pilot that got us here.

The only thing that has people engaged was the stolen election of 2020. THAT got their attention. It's my guess that at least 60% of Americans believe the election was stolen and that has them concerned. The other 40% either don't care or they are democRATs. The raid on Donald Trump's compound might have gotten a few more on board. I would like to think that was a wake up call to millions of Americans.

kwg

They are both state controlled national entities. One, communism owns controls and dictates the means of production and the collective, while the other although directing the means of production, allows for the concept of profit. In Germany, industry was still held by private entities, Krupp, Porsche, I.G. Farben, etc whilst in the communist world EVERYTHING is owned by the state. Both tell you want, when and where to go from cradle to grave. BTW, hatred of jews is a common factor throughout history. There is a reason for that, too. Incidentally, the "Philosopher" of the Nazis was a jew..

The below might brighten your mood. Almost every tentacle of International Jewry present in the US was also present in Weimer Germany and was just as deeply embedded.

The only significant difference I see at this point is that things aren't nearly as bad in the daly lives of most people in the US. This makes a good case for accelerationism, since things will have to get worse before they get better let's just make them worse ASAP.

The OP is a troll.

He wants to get you people in trouble.

While the Nazi party allowed private ownership of industry, there was a fellow by the name of Albert Speer who worked for Hitler. His directions to industry carried the force of law.

Uh-Huh

Speer''s command and control really didn't come into full play until the end of 43 almost to 44 when they knew it was over. Still, all these companies were allowed (and did) make a lot of profit. One of the reasons all of them survived the war and were able to make the transition back to normal, whereas practically NONE of the Soviet run industries were able to after the collapse in 91.

Speer was minister of armaments by 1942, but you're probably right about his power increasing as the Reich's desperation mounted.

My main contention is that the Nazi system only used free enterprise (if you could even call it that) much like the CCP does at present. It was just the other side of the totalitarian coin in that Hitler aspired to operate a command economy from day one.

There really isn’t a significant difference between Nazism, Communism and Progressive Fascism. They just use different lies to achieve the same goal, utopia. They want a one party state that they rule without constraints (like our Constitution) and through it control every aspect of society.

Agreed on the CCP comparison.

"The raid on Donald Trump's compound might have gotten a few more on board. I would like to think that was a wake up call to millions of Americans."

I doubt it very much. We're too busy watching TV shows and living the "good" life. Too many distractions. Jan 6, school shootings, loony tunes running over people, movie starts dying and dozen more things I can think of. I dropped cable, no antenna for the freebie stations and all the TV set is good for now is watching movies on DVDs. I got tired of the MSM lying to me every night.
PJ

That’s because the United States enabled them to do so.

That’s the only reason.

All manufacturing by Japan and Germany throughout the war was 100% dictated and managed by their government.

Jim is our Contrarian voice.

kwg

German industry had the infrastructure to transition to a market economy after the war ended because they profit motive was preserved throughout the existence of the Third Reich. There were a lot of people (including stockholders) who made a lot of money through privately held stock. Prior to late 1943, orders were placed for war materiel just like we do here and it was really up the these firms to allocate production/profit (The Arms of Krupp is an excellent source) to fulfill these orders. IT was only after 43' when Speer's power really set in and they completely directed manufacturing and not before. He even told Himmler and his favorite badass Heydrich, he needed the slave labor and not the death camps.