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As to planes: Historical rumor had it our Oregon Moose and Goose boys flew the evening before elk season and flour bombed herds to break them up. Given the frequency of such stories across the state, they must have had at least 100 craft in the air. Never saw any flour bombs, but have seen substantial aircraft circling in our wilderness areas the evening before opener.

Locally, we've had a few red neck pilots that worked elk for their families opening morning. Also a few power gliders taking deer/elk from the air.

We've also had some high dollar governor's tag guides use aircraft to haze trophy sheep and elk into their area. Mostly an issue in our NE Washington/Oregon canyons where the trophy happens to be across the state line. With some of those guide fees getting into the $20 to 30k range there's likely a little impetus to come up with a record book trophy.

I've personally done only one guided hunt in NE Oregon. No aircraft were involved but lots of folks can sit at their breakfast tables and scan rugged mountainsides and canyons for game or spot something during their travels. About every other morning across 11 days, my guide would get calls on sightings, and I suspect he might slide a C note or two to the source if they generate a score. In all but one case we were too far out of the country to take advantage of such. We were indeed following up on a call though when I scored my kill. It was not, however, part of the reported herd as he was on the wrong side of the mountain.

Proposal 207 was so poorly written, The poor guy out flying his plane not a sheep hunter just flying maybe going to land on a lake somewhere do some fishing like oh I don't know Klutina lake. While approaching the lake spots sheep notices some nice rams. Lands on lake does some fishing for the day or whatever. Takes off heads home, Talking to his bud about this trip his bud goes hey I have a sheep tag for that area but haven't gone in yet because fish and game said the sheep population is low and heard that through the sheep hunter grapevine sheep population is low. The pilot goes no I saw a bunch of sheep today looks like a couple of nice rams. His bud goes that's great news, I better get a transporter lined up or ride a wheeler in. When that proposal was passed their were sheep to hunt. The only reason that proposal was put forth was the typical NR/Guide versus Residents without planes argument.

Sure ok. Nothing you posted above is accurate. There’s a difference between flying a valley and circling sheep.

My favorite testimony against prop 207 was a young guy wider than he was tall saying he was against prop 207 because he doesn’t have time to hunt sheep. He wants to find a ram, land nearby and be back home the next day.

Boy, I sure hope you were wearing those waterproof undies I sent to you. Pics of them would have been cool.

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I am tired of you wanting to sniff my schit stained panties you weirdo. I know that’s what you really want.

Well you guys are implying waterrat buddy is circling mtns and looking for sheep for him.. When he is just flying the valleys taking in the scenery and if he see's sheep and tell water rat or his other buddies that he saw sheep what's wrong with that??

Snitch

Did the troopers give you an atta boy when you called them with this info?

If a trooper is conducting investigations based on what is said on the internet then they need to reevaluate what it takes to catch a criminal. I can say whatever I want here at the fire and people can turn me in all they want. If you think the troopers are cruising this forum looking for people breaking the law you are either stupid or stupid. Get a life and move along to whatever other crusade you have planned.

I don't think our troopers surf the web all day, but they have made some cases when idiots are stupid enough to post videos of misdeeds. Those are mostly reported by incensed civilians. Like videos of shooting from roads/rigs, or boats under power. Last fall some teenagers videoed and posted their attempts to ride a fenced in and injured doe and giggling as it bleated and fell in pain.

This isn't one of those situations. No videos as far as I know. Zero evidence as to any misconduct, some of these guys are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Must not have any friends that like to fly around on their own....

Nothing wrong with “taking in scenery”. But reread rat’s post. His pilot buddy is keeping his eye out for rams and will let him know if he sees any worthwhile. You can’t judge a ram with one pass down the valley. If you want to argue that it’s ok but you would be wrong again. Even on a big ram it involves getting pretty close and looking at it a few times due to plane speed etc.

Go ahead and argue it. Waterrat posted something that isn’t vague like you’re trying to make it out to be. That’s a fact. Is prop 207 an unenforceable or BS law? Maybe. But it’s still the law. If you don’t like it get a group of like minded people together and change it. Oh wait they tried that. 😂😂. Every year since then. And failed, horribly.

If sitkadeer was right you think it would of been changed by now. I guess the proof is in the pudding.

You should stick to fishing.

Why you would you mock someone for turning in someone that possibly is breaking the law in regards to hunting? Do you not value our wildlife?

A friend saw a picture posted last fall of a ram that he knew was poached. He turned them in and it’s going to be the biggest poaching case ever in the chugach (Sitkaqueer will be calling his buddies now to hear it but you heard it here first). Would you mock him to for turning the guy in? Other’s on this thread would call him a “snitch”. Wtf.

I guess you guys condone poaching and breaking wildlife laws. Luckily others do not.

I want to see some ram pics, where is cwh2???

Oh lord go back to AOD.. majority of us would report a poacher and some would choose to mind their own business which is wrong. But you are trying to justify your actions calling the troopers on a guy who minding his own business. You are a idiot..

And you and your bro Bambistew are trying to make this out to be the case of the year..

I have some pictures my buddy sent me. But not my pictures to post.

Clear-cut game violations are one thing. “Keeping an eye out” is not a violation of anything.

I wonder how that call went with the troopers. Seldomseensmith- yes on a Internet forum a guy with a handle of waterrat. Trooper- you said their handle is waterrat? Seldomseensmith- yes waterrat, anyhow he drew a DS165 permit said his buddy while flying up their going to keep an eye out for some rams for him. Trooper-what’s his buddies name? Seldomseensmith- uh I don’t know? Trooper- you have a tail number? Seldomseensmith- no. Trooper ok thank you have a good day.