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Anybody know who this guy is...? GR Just another old guy who knew nothing compared to Stick. Cool hat though. Fedora, like "Indiana Jones." Think he knows anything about hunting? GR They sell 'em at David Morgan's. You could ask your mom to buy you one. https://www.davidmorgan.com/shop/product/1128/adventurer-hat-open-crown/
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The sell 'em at David Morgan's. You could ask your mom to buy you one. Why? You do séances, too? Think this guy can hit anything w/ that rifle he's got there? GR
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I can't believe O'connor was using that crutch, er, I mean scope.
Marksmanshio, it's a skill.
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I can't believe O'connor was using that crutch, er, I mean scope.
Marksmanshio, it's a skill. Apparently trolling is, as well.
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Anybody know who this guy is...? GR Pappy O'Daniel? Whoever he is... he looks like he knows his way around a rifle. GR Looks like he's using a crutch to me...based off of your nonsensical ramblings he should be ashamed. Using a sling and a knee....the nerve! P.s. you are a moron.
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Take pictures of things loved, and things fascinating. Things killed with a rifle... are neither. So hold your breath. Marksmanship - is a skill. GR Are you the fat guy in the camo? The ironic thing about the big guy in the camo coat is that he is quite the marksman and an advocate for field shooting conditions; I believed a disabled veteran who runs F-Class matches, "sniper" matches, and a few other styles. His name is Bob Roach, unless I'm misremembering. If the original poster in this thread knew him, they may find quite a bit of common ground. But posting a photo from a belly-benchrest or benchrest competition is like saying a racecar is a "crutch" at an F1 race; you should use your daily driver.
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This thread, and the others running concurrently, are full of such “logic.”
OP has proven himself to be a moderately effective troll, however.
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I believe he's the guy asking about hunting at 600 yards. I wonder what form of "crutch" he will be using there?
"Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."
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I believe he's the guy asking about hunting at 600 yards. I wonder what form of "crutch" he will be using there? I'm gonna go with Maxi-pad.
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3-4 MOA is most certainly NOT good enough for "most game" at 300 yards. 4 moa at 300 yds is gonna land somewhere in a 24" circle!
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Interesting thread. I suspect unrealistic ideas of marksmanship, a lack of spot-and-stalk experience and little or no experience shooting off of sticks contributed to the original posting.
The first time I went to Africa, I didn't bother practicing off of sticks in that I thought all the offhand shooting I had done would transfer. It didn't. Shooting off sticks is a skill in itself and takes practice to do well. After learning how, I rarely go afield without them. Sticks can get you above the brush, which is important when stalking. I've never measured it, but I suspect it sticks take my shooting ability to 3 MOA or so consistently and under realistic conditions.
Regarding offhand shooting skills, the targets used for silhouette matches are in the 4-5 MOA range in height and I suspect average bigger than that overall. A REALLY good shooter in the hunting rifle class will shoot about 75% offhand in a match. Shooting around 80% will probably put you in the upper few and might win a national championship. Rimfire shooters shoot 1/5 the distance at 1/5 scale targets and shoot a few targets better than that. The lack of recoil of a rimfire really helps.
Based on my experience with silhouettes and dabbling in High Power, I would say it takes a good shooter to consistently shoot 6 MOA offhand.
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3-4 MOA is most certainly NOT good enough for "most game" at 300 yards. 4 moa at 300 yds is gonna land somewhere in a 24" circle! My math may be wrong, but I think 4 MOA is a little over 12" at 300, which is border line for shooting game, assuming one can shoot 4 MOA standing.
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3-4 MOA is most certainly NOT good enough for "most game" at 300 yards. 4 moa at 300 yds is gonna land somewhere in a 24" circle! My math may be wrong, but I think 4 MOA is a little over 12" at 300, which is border line for shooting game, assuming one can shoot 4 MOA standing. 3-4 MOA shooting is indeed a nominal 9-12" at 300 yards. Most would be lucky to shoot that at 100 with their "sub-MOA" rifles, off the concrete bench and from field positions. GR
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As it should be. It's on the rifle anyway, right? Why not make it a shooting sling. Marksmanship - is a Skill. GR
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Don't know if already mentioned but Craig Boddington is a retired Marine Brigadier General. He most likely knows how to shoot.
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Killed a few gators, 11’ fatso with knife., monster that made mags, nah he almost sunk the boat and guide talked me outta knife on what may be heaviest gator killed.
Pigs with grab dogs, bear is interest since childhood but seeing them speared from above in bait, nah! Took last three at 10 yards and refused to buddy tag a 600 lbs known bear at same.
Just saying, lots of other arguments to make about Tarzan or marksmanship.
Panther, only one I’ve seen was on Duck Dynasty but it looked like a really overweight guy named Godwin crawling shirtless through brush. Did see a couple cougars on GA border at 1am and thought local zoo lost its lionesses.
Knifing one of those might get interesting.
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Don't know if already mentioned but Craig Boddington is a retired Marine Brigadier General. He most likely knows how to shoot.
Semper Fi It's the culture in general, not him in particular. Although he is a big promoter of it, as he relies on it to shoot in his old age, and this is normalized. Go to any civilian rifle range - and see how many are shooting from standing, or field positions from a mat. GR
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OP has proven himself to be a moderately effective troll, however. This
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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OP has proven himself to be a moderately effective troll, however. This The term you are searching for is "Marksman." Not all that difficult, with a little practice. Ha! GR
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