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I won't be the Guinea pig on this, but have to admit it's interesting.



https://ruger.com/products/sfar/models.html

Needs a 22/25/6.5 Creed bbl !

I wonder if this will stick better than the DPMS G2 models?

Hey Ruger, you screwed up on this one. At this point in time if your making an AR type rifle that's new at this price point it needs to have real ambi safety, mag and bolt release controls or its not up to the times. The product development folks at Ruger should understand this.

I believe Rugers have a 40% failure rate in our classes. I wouldn’t trust a Ruger 556, much less a 762.

i have a Red precision Ruger AR-10 bolt rifle i purchased 2 years ago in a 6.5 Creedmoor this rifle at 100 yards - 5 shot groups will shoot 1/2 inch groups all day long , i do have a Nightforce target scope , my hand loads , and i set the trigger down 2lbs. also . it is a very easy rifle to use and shoot. if this helps you any ? Pete53

I own 2 AR15s. A Ruger MPR and a Colt 6920. I have a lot more trigger time on the Ruger. I've yet to have a malfunction with the MPR..... My colt on the other hand has hiccuped a few times. I trust both but it is what it is.

I’ll keep my M1a, thank you.

They are nice, fun to shoot.

My Ruger MPR is dead nuts reliable in 5 years of plinking and predator calling. It's a very accurate rifle.

Ruger's SR762 had a great record I thought....wonder why they are adding a DI rifle to an already successful, piston platform.

I'm just dipping my foot in now to the AR308 game, I went with Christensen. So far, it's all good.

My understanding is that the SR762 has been discontinued.

edit: yes, it's gone from the catalog.

You're so full of [bleep]....

6.8lbs is pretty good.

This mornings outing with the MPR......



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Nice shooting!

a 55 gr 308 bullet ?

Remington Accelerators… LOL

Hey Bluedraux! What was the biggest failure of the Ruger 556? I saw a pic of the earlier bolt carriers & they were pitiful. Why they cut one that way is a mystery. To save 50 cents worth of material or machine time?

Who said anything about a 55g .30cal?

From an earlier post.... Basically, they're just carelessly built. Like all budget ARs.

I'm interested, will probably get one. The new SFAR looks to be sized like the POF Rogue, smaller than the DPMS G2, which is good as far as I'm concerned, I liked my Rogue. The question for me is, for a rifle that will be suppressed most of the time, get the 20" with RLGS and chop it down to ~17", or get the 16" MLGS and hope the regulator can reduce gas enough to tame a suppressed mid-length .308 sufficiently... Leaning towards the former.

I handled one in a LGS today and I am ready to get one. The one they had was already sold. I have built 2 AR-10s for family members, but never really wanted one myself due to the bulk and weight. This one has changed my mind.

Yeah Rugers are junk.

I've ONLY run 1000+ through my 450 one.

Opinions are like you know what, plenty here.

One of these in a 16" version followed me home today. I will get it out to the range later this week to see how it shoots. I mounted a SWFA 1-4 on it for now, but have a 10x that will probably get mounted.

Weight without scope is 6.7 lbs
Weight with the SWFA 1-4 and Burris mount is 8.7 lbs.

The front is a AR-15 and behind it is the SFAR for comparison. The lengths are pretty much the same, but the mag well on the SFAR goes further back in the lower receiver.

Very interesting. It would appear that the trigger group geometry is totally different from that of an AR15.

Happy Birthday, gunzo!

Thanks g5m!

Hey scoony, what shop in our state might I see one? And, lookin forward to your report.

This was in Etown guns and sporting. This was the second SFAR they got in.


As for the trigger, It has about a 4 lb pull and a bit nicer then a mil spec trigger. Looks to be the same as a AR-15 trigger, but I will have to pull it out to compare.

What magazine do they use?

WTF?

The Ruger is a copy of the DPMS G2 and uses standard AR triggers.

Please expound on exactly what "appears" "totally different" in the "geometry".

DPMS/SR25/ Magpul.

You can bet your ass that I won't Guinea Pig a Ruger.

Send one to me you babies!

I’ll take one or two also.

But you already are Paul.

What's that mean where Ruger is concerned?

But a 45Colt Blackhawk, odds are the throats will not be right.
Been building them for 50 years,
fixing the throats has been a cottage industry for 30.

How long is the Guinea Pig era for Ruger.😁😁😁😁😁

Not real damn hard to grind the reamers to a spec,
pitch them when underside,
And at least try to use the same sized ones for all the holes in a
particular cylinder.

Thanks.

My first AR was a Ruger AR556. The rear of the bolt carrier had a burr that cut a groove in the face of the buffer. Contacted Ruger, sent them a few pics per their request and got a new bolt carrier and buffer. Stoned and polished the rear of that bolt carrier and used it in a different build. The buffer with the chewed up face is also still in use. So there was a QC issue, but one that was easily fixed, plus spare parts to boot. Now that Ruger is sporting a BCM upper with a Douglas barrel and a bunch of other non-Ruger parts.

With this SFAR, there is one area of concern. The gas block looks like it may be touching the inside of the handguard. Not sure if this will be an issue, but with my AR builds, I always make sure that there is clearance so the gas block is not making contact. I will get out to the range on Friday and will see how it shoots. Already mounted a ASR muzzle device.

The rifle is light enough that I can see myself carrying it in the woods for deer, even with a suppressor. I have built 2 AR-10s for family and would never consider carrying them for hunting.

"How long is the Guinea Pig era for Ruger"

That's a good one!

Took it to the range today and the first 4 shots. Ammo was Hornady American Gunner 155 bthp.



I was zeroing the scope and was not seeing my hits until the 4th shot and I noticed that I was hitting the lower right corner of the target. 60 mils up and about 15 left got it on target.

This is 3 shots at 100 yards.



At 300 yards, it shot about 4" group. I had no problems hitting 6" to 8" rocks at 300-335 yards.

The only hick-up was when I tried some handloads that were loaded in brass that had been fired from another rifle. 3rd round, the fired case stuck in the chamber. Seems the Redding dies do not size the brass down enough for the chamber. That brass was 0.470 at the base before and after firing. The Hornady Brass was .465 before and .468 after. I have a RCBS FL that sizes down to .0467 and the SB that sizes down a little more so those dies will fix the issue. I just need to get the bolt action out and start shooting that rest of that ammo.

The Hornady brass was ejecting to the 4 o'clock at about 10-12' on gas setting 1. I did not try the other gas settings. I was also shooting suppressed which makes it very pleasant to shoot with less noise and lack of recoil. I am really happy with this purchase.

Call me a very Happy Guinea Pig

Dang!

That thing shoots!


Happy for you.

"Call me a happy Guinea Pig"

Glad both you & the test media made it through with flying colors! Will likely be a while before the average accuracy for several samples will be known, but if most are like yours, that's a major win.

I didn't know, until you mentioned it, that they have an adjustable gas block. So I watched the vid this time & saw it, a good option IMO. Had a FAL years ago & liked the adjustable gas on it.

Dang it, now I want one. Thanks so much for the report.

The specs say it comes with a 2-stage trigger - the 452, which is a standard ar15 2-stage. Nice trigger.

I saw two SFAR’s on Saturday at the LGS. I honestly thought it was an AR15 except they both had magazines in them and looked a little weird. Sure enough, they were SFAR’s, sot hats why the mags looked off. Nice little guns and light as the AR10’s down from them were a little heavier. Also, while the gas block looked like a tight squeeze between it and the handguard, it was not touching/rubbing anything. The older gentleman next to me got so excited he said he had to leave before he bought one. 🤣