Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Bicyclists causing trouble in traffic.....again.

You are imagining that there was auto traffic affected by the cyclists in the photos. I haven't seen any evidence that there was. This ties in very well with my contention that most "problems" with cyclists aren't really problems. The overwhelming majority of the time, the problems are not problems. If they are problems, they certainly pale in comparison to the problems other motorists pose.

Bet you made Apple Butter and lard as a kid.
Top 5 pot stirred at least.

If every bike rider responded to cars like you, there would be
fewer accidents, less trouble.

At least half don't.

They stay center lane, 2 wide. And hold up traffic.

But you know that.







Not just bikes.
Recreation in general.
Roadways were built and funded for transportation, not recreation.
ATVs, horses, bikes, Leaf Lookers. Given the power, I'd fine the guts
out of any of them holding up traffic more the 5% of the posted speed.

Equipment, trucks going uphill?
That's commerce, the underlying reason for the transportation in the
first place.


Don't get me started on ignorant Dickweasels blocking the aisle in
The store. The ones taking all day to comb their 8 year olds hair, then
walk him to the door while blocking the drop off lane at school.

Narcissism, Trending in the USA.

I'm with you. Just the other day there was a woman with three kids blocking the aisle, couldn't make up her mind which tuna fish to buy. I was in a hurry so I just mowed her down with the cart and kept going.



Not really. I said "excuse me ma'am, could I please get by?" She smiled and said "sorry" and her little boy moved her cart out of the way with a smile. Cute little bugger.

FWIW, and that is probably very little, when I interact with bicyclists, I implore them to take a cooperative approach, rather than an us vs them approach.

I don't know that it is narcissism, I think that in general it is a general lack of awareness of surroundings. The people that block the grocery aisle. Not that I have ever done this, but slamming your cart into theirs can make for fascinating human response. People who stand in the check-out line for 5 minutes while their groceries are being rung up, and only consider fumble fugking for their Visa card when the cashier finishes the process. Drivers who get distracted waiting at a traffic light and don't go when it turns green. Drivers who languish in the left lane while cars are continuously passing on the right. I suspect most of it is people who are unaware. Who knows though.

The purpose of roads boils down to belief. Ultimately the law spells out who can and cannot use roads. I don't care why or how someone is using the road as long as they are safe and considerate. I encountered an old guy on one of those 4 wheel disability scooters the other day. It didn't bother me one bit to go around. When I rode my bike yesterday, I encountered a woman in a CRV who stopped right in the middle of a 4 way intersection. I was coming up behind her. I very slowly went around, expecting her to turn left toward me at any moment. She was lighting a damn cigarette. Maybe, pull off to the side of the road to do that? Statistically speaking, there's a large chance of her being the kind that bitches about bicycles.

Farm tractor going down the winding back country road to till the deer plot.

Fat woman driving to McDonalds.

Old geezers in an RV driving up a mountain road.

Angry, middle aged, out of shape white guy driving to the hunting camp.

Horse lover towing horse trailer to the National Forest trail to ride.

Family on their way to Disney.

Bicycle tourist on Route 66.

Amish buggy taking bread to the local outdoor market.

I don't care why people are using the road. Just be as fugking cooperative with others as you can.

I am not so narcissistic that I think I have a right to plow through life without ever lifting off of the gas. Seems many here are unlike me in that regard.

That's like Paul moving to the side.

Ever have them look at you trying to patiently wait a few seconds,
then just go back to looking. When they could easily have given you
room?


Wasn't raised that way.
If someone is being held up by my cart (it happens :blush)
I apologize and get the heck over.

You should have reminded her that when she goes through the check out line that it would be courteous to be ready to pay.

I did. And also told her to pull off on the shoulder when she has her kids light her cigarette or fish a beer out if the cooler for her

The second photo appears to be the Going-to-the-Sun highway in Glacier. Hard to imagine a time that highway wouldn’t be uber crowded with vehicle traffic at the season that appears to be. If so, given the narrow nature of that road there’s places where vehicles travelling in opposite directions squeeze by each other with mere inches to spare even without bicycles to contend with.

Ironically, claiming the whole lane as those people are doing may be the only possible way to ride that road in season.

As for the first photo, I think everyone has encountered situations like that at some point while driving. Even without the guys in the wrong lane, haven’t you yourself stated it’s safest for the cyclist to “claim the lane” ie. ride in the traffic lane?


How would this not equally apply to pedestrians walking in the roadway?

Oh, and I forgot to mention this. Smokepole will get it. She probably drives too. Statistically speaking, odd are she loathes dumb, inconsiderate bicyclists.

Yes, I would find it very difficult to pass her

Since you struggle with logic and tend to engage in obfuscation, I'll tackle this bit by bit, so as not to confuse you.

Don't imagine. It's not so crowded that there's evidence of any other cars on the road. Don't imagine.

If that is the case, then it wouldn't matter if they were in single file. A motorist still wouldn't be able to pass until the oncoming lane was clear.

Again, no evidence that motorists were affected. No, as a motorist I have not encountered anything like that. I suspect the reason is that people won't do it when they see or hear cars coming.

Not sure what that has to do with my comments. Cyclists are more visible when they are out in the lane, less likely to be brush passed and more likely to be perceived as and treated as traffic. That's why my default position is out in the lane. I move right as circumstances warrant.

It took a while, but someone finally slammed that bait. I knew someone would unwittingly make my point for me, and it doesn't surprise me that it was you.

Your point is unclear from here, you could be avoiding a direct question.

Was your comment related to the post I made about the pedestrian in the picture?

It's illegal to ride across the double yellow in the oncoming lane... regardless if there is traffic or not.

Kent

Any two wheeled transpo, motorized or not, is a hell of a lot of fun.

Leather and Lycra clad tards gotta fugk it up for for everybody though.