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On the way into work, I stopped at a red light. The flashes of the red light cameras were going nuts, but the only people going through the intersection had a green light.
If those drivers get a ticket in the mail, how can they fight it and prove they had the green light?
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I have never paid a red light ticket. If they send a ticket in the mail I throw it in the trash.
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I did the same with the one I got and I never heard another word.
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Approaching a red light in El Paso one night... Hardly anyone out driving. Light turned red and kinda surprised me, but I hit the brakes and stopped before entering the intersection. That camera flashed a few times and I just grinned. I was the only one at the intersection. I took a photo with my cell camera just in case I got a ticket in the mail, to show I didn't run the red light... Never got a ticket in the mail.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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I have never paid a red light ticket. If they send a ticket in the mail I throw it in the trash. One post in & you have your answer.
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Camera generated tickets have been argued in court many times. We have the right to face our accuser. No camera has ever testified in court.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
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I got two speeding tickets from a camera speed trap in Bluff City TN and never paid either one of them. I received 2-3 followup notices but ditched those as well. Nothing happened.
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It's been proven that many towns installed the cameras and at the same shortened the time of the yellow light. It's nothing more than a way to generate revenue.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
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Camera generated tickets have been argued in court many times. We have the right to face our accuser. No camera has ever testified in court. I think the state or city is the accuser, the photo is just the evidence.
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I have never paid a red light ticket. If they send a ticket in the mail I throw it in the trash. I did the same with the one I got and I never heard another word. What form did the letter take? Did it show some irrefutable evidence that the light was red when you went through the intersection, or did it just say, "here's a picture of you in your car."?
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God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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Camera generated tickets have been argued in court many times. We have the right to face our accuser. No camera has ever testified in court. I think the state or city is the accuser, the photo is just the evidence. Would the accused be able to subpoena the installer to ask how they guarantee the camera functions properly?
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When I worked for oil states and had to go through Houston I'd get on the tollway and run the tollway both, the company would pay the tickets.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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Send ‘em a picture of some cash.
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Wife got a red light ticket once. Petitioned to see the source video. Yup she ran the light. Marker in my book. 🤣😂🤣
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I have never paid a red light ticket. If they send a ticket in the mail I throw it in the trash. Then there is a bench warrant out for your arrest most likely. It will come into play if you ever get stopped for a moving violation, when you go to renew your license (denied until you go to court and clear that up), or have any other permitting or licensure with the city, County, state that issued the violation. If you can say you've been doing this for 40 years and nothing happened, I don't suggest others follow you lead. I got two speeding tickets from a camera speed trap in Bluff City TN and never paid either one of them. I received 2-3 followup notices but ditched those as well. Nothing happened. Because you are out of state. Should you ever in the future get stopped in Bluff City TN (or anywhere in that same county), they probably have a bench warrant out for you and would take you in.
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If you like to travel.
A bench warrant will make it difficult to travel out of the country.
Then you have some countries will not let you in because you have an outstanding warrant.
Then there is the initial fine and all the add on's when you finally decide pay. You know when you need to renew your drivers license or try to obtain new tags for your vehicle.
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Red light camera tickets are totally illegal.
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They did away with those cameras here, because everyone beat the tickets in court.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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Wife got a red light ticket once. Petitioned to see the source video. Yup she ran the light. Marker in my book. 🤣😂🤣 bastid! But.................I'd likely do the same!
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