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The SCOTUS, took it and gave it back to the States, where it belonged all along...........

WHY, Graham brings it up as a NATIONAL issue is beyond me...... after previously arguing it was a States Rights issue....

...and NOW of all times, when it doesn't have a SNOWBALLS chance of success...

LEAVE it with the States...........

JMHO


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Originally Posted by Muffin
WHY, Graham brings it up as a NATIONAL issue is beyond me...... after previously arguing it was a States Rights issue....

Listen to that Federalist episode; they talk about what they theorize as either the strategy behind the move, or at least a good way to use it to the advantage of those Reps with the cojones to stand for something.

They suggest that Graham is giving Rep candidates the chance to call out Dems, whose “abortion anytime anywhere for any reason” stance is far out of step with the American public. By offering this olive branch he is effectively saying, “you want to protect a woman’s ‘right to choose’ at the Federal level and we’ll do so in a way that reflects the current sensibilities of the electorate and, lest you think us draconian in the restriction, brings us in line with European standards which you’re always touting as more civilized.”

Thus they’re forced to alienate their base by settling to (GASP) limit a mothers ability to kill her children, or they can side against the general electorate by accepting Graham’s olive branch, limits included, which they really can’t do, and will therefore be shown to be the extremists they are.

Aside from my disgust over playing politics with lives of children, it seems a good strategy to me IF Reps will show the intestinal fortitude to put that ammunition to use.

And I doubt they will. Protecting the lives of unborn children is too controversial for them. They feel better talking about inflation.

What the hell has our country come to that we place economics over condemning murder?

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I have not read all this crap, nor will I .

However, conservatives are laying low . Can't even get a good poll.

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Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by Muffin
WHY, Graham brings it up as a NATIONAL issue is beyond me...... after previously arguing it was a States Rights issue....

Listen to that Federalist episode; they talk about what they theorize as either the strategy behind the move, or at least a good way to use it to the advantage of those Reps with the cojones to stand for something.

They suggest that Graham is giving Rep candidates the chance to call out Dems, whose “abortion anytime anywhere for any reason” stance is far out of step with the American public. By offering this olive branch he is effectively saying, “you want to protect a woman’s ‘right to choose’ at the Federal level and we’ll do so in a way that reflects the current sensibilities of the electorate and, lest you think us draconian in the restriction, brings us in line with European standards which you’re always touting as more civilized.”

Thus they’re forced to alienate their base by settling to (GASP) limit a mothers ability to kill her children, or they can side against the general electorate by rejecting Graham’s olive branch.

Aside from my disgust over playing politics with lives of children, it seems a good strategy to me IF Reps will show the intestinal fortitude to put that ammunition to use.

And I doubt they will. Protecting the lives of unborn children is too controversial for them. They feel better talking about inflation.

What the hell has our country come to that we place economics over condemning murder?

efw, I get all that, but we're still down to an intelligent and logical approach to thwart those that vote based on neither................

What could go wrong!

Again, JMHO...


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Originally Posted by Muffin
efw, I get all that, but we're still down to an intelligent and logical approach to thwart those that vote based on neither................

What could go wrong!

Again, JMHO...

Based upon experience I understand your skepticism with regard to Reps’ ability to walk and chew gum at the same time.

I guess my bottom line is that abortion is only one example amongst many (see Virginia’s Governor’s victory) showing that the OP’s viewpoint concerning economic issues as “winners” and social issues as “losers” is just wrong. We go after Dems on their incessant degrading of our culture and people agree.

I don’t care about inflation when guns are going off around me, Molotov cocktails being tossed, and buildings burning.

But if you make clear you intend to do something about ALL of it? Well that might perk my ears…

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Democraps are constantly trying to identify privileges and commodities as rights in order to further their agenda of socialism and big government. Voting is not a right, it is a privilege of citizenship and you have the responsibility of proving your citizenship in order to vote. Medical care, housing, food, cell phones, internet access and such, portrayed as rights are commodities and subject to your ability to pay for them. I think the SC made the right decision returning the abortion issue to the states. I don't think abortion should be used as birth control. Women and men have other ways to control that prior to becoming pregnant. Other than that, I dont think government should be involved at all. It is a personal decision to be made by those involved and will be answered for when you enter the next life.
There have been several articles written recently about how inaccurate the polls are because people won't answer or won't answer truthfully. Of course they put the blame on conservatives. I do think the abortion decision has complicated polling data.

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1000 doctors across the USA were polled about the best way to avoid pregnancy during sex, thus lowering the abortion number's exponential rise here. They all came to the consensus that prescribing one simple aspirin might be the best way to accomplish said goal. They would prescribe sexually active females that one aspirin and instruct the patients to take one just befor sex, and instruct them to place between the knees and not let it drop...


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At what age do old men start telling broads to keep their legs closed...instead of brag about how much pussy they got in high school and college?
When their peters dont work anymore.


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Meh…suburban moms are the ones who are literally in tears right now over grocery bills that are up 40 percent or so. Lots of people are getting stretched and even those who aren’t, can’t really ignore inflation in something so basic as food.

Jaxson, Brayden, and Daxton ain’t gonna be hitting no homers playing travel ball if they ain’t loading up on the protein. Trust me, suburban moms are noticing this schit and they know who is to blame.

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Originally Posted by Muffin
The SCOTUS, took it and gave it back to the States, where it belonged all along...........

WHY, Graham brings it up as a NATIONAL issue is beyond me...... after previously arguing it was a States Rights issue....

...and NOW of all times, when it doesn't have a SNOWBALLS chance of success...

LEAVE it with the States...........

JMHO


The GOP establishment does not want to win this November. Still don't get it?

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Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Muffin
The SCOTUS, took it and gave it back to the States, where it belonged all along...........

WHY, Graham brings it up as a NATIONAL issue is beyond me...... after previously arguing it was a States Rights issue....

...and NOW of all times, when it doesn't have a SNOWBALLS chance of success...

LEAVE it with the States...........

JMHO


The GOP establishment does not want to win this November. Still don't get it?

Absolutely! McConnell and Graham are perfectly content being the minority party. They aren't expected to accomplish anything because they are in the minority but they can complain about what the demoncraps are doing.

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That just tells us just how stupid and uninformed the average American female is.


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Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Muffin
The SCOTUS, took it and gave it back to the States, where it belonged all along...........

WHY, Graham brings it up as a NATIONAL issue is beyond me...... after previously arguing it was a States Rights issue....

...and NOW of all times, when it doesn't have a SNOWBALLS chance of success...

LEAVE it with the States...........

JMHO


The GOP establishment does not want to win this November. Still don't get it?

My post above shows a way candidates who want to win could use Graham’s bill to win.

I don’t believe social issues are losers like the leadership of the party seems to think.

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Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by Muffin
WHY, Graham brings it up as a NATIONAL issue is beyond me...... after previously arguing it was a States Rights issue....

Listen to that Federalist episode; they talk about what they theorize as either the strategy behind the move, or at least a good way to use it to the advantage of those Reps with the cojones to stand for something.

They suggest that Graham is giving Rep candidates the chance to call out Dems, whose “abortion anytime anywhere for any reason” stance is far out of step with the American public. By offering this olive branch he is effectively saying, “you want to protect a woman’s ‘right to choose’ at the Federal level and we’ll do so in a way that reflects the current sensibilities of the electorate and, lest you think us draconian in the restriction, brings us in line with European standards which you’re always touting as more civilized.”

Thus they’re forced to alienate their base by settling to (GASP) limit a mothers ability to kill her children, or they can side against the general electorate by accepting Graham’s olive branch, limits included, which they really can’t do, and will therefore be shown to be the extremists they are.

Aside from my disgust over playing politics with lives of children, it seems a good strategy to me IF Reps will show the intestinal fortitude to put that ammunition to use.

And I doubt they will. Protecting the lives of unborn children is too controversial for them. They feel better talking about inflation.

What the hell has our country come to that we place economics over condemning murder?



It’s astonishing that’s anyone could possibly give Ms. Lindsay and the Derby Donkey any cognitive prowess on this subject..

No my Friends this is a Trojan Horse filled with Defeat ..

They ain’t smart enough to enter that Arena of
Ideas ..

They can’t even talk about the Ideas their supposed to be good at like the Border, Taxes, National Debt, Energy matters..

No Ms. Lindsay is trying to kill the Party to save it from a Chance at a Good and Sound American..

These People aren’t on Our Side ..


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Anyone who thinks Graham is trying to help the GOP win in November needs to put down the crack pipe

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I am still reading this thread in its entirety.

My stance on corporal punishment is, they should have made better life decisions.


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Pretty simple for the GOP. Stop talking about abortion.



This 4 d chess bullschit never works which you claim Graham is doing. Keep the message simple and clear. Americans are generally stupid and will vote based on the last thing they hear

It's a state issue.

Economy , crime, immigration, education







Originally Posted by efw
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by Muffin
The SCOTUS, took it and gave it back to the States, where it belonged all along...........

WHY, Graham brings it up as a NATIONAL issue is beyond me...... after previously arguing it was a States Rights issue....

...and NOW of all times, when it doesn't have a SNOWBALLS chance of success...

LEAVE it with the States...........

JMHO


The GOP establishment does not want to win this November. Still don't get it?

My post above shows a way candidates who want to win could use Graham’s bill to win.

I don’t believe social issues are losers like the leadership of the party seems to think.

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Originally Posted by akrange
It’s astonishing that’s anyone could possibly give Ms. Lindsay and the Derby Donkey any cognitive prowess on this subject..

No my Friends this is a Trojan Horse filled with Defeat ..

They ain’t smart enough to enter that Arena of
Ideas ..

I tend to think this way also, which is why I said, “… or at least a good way to use it to the advantage of those Reps with the cojones to stand for something.”



Originally Posted by ribka
Pretty simple for the GOP. Stop talking about abortion.



This 4 d chess bullschit never works which you claim Graham is doing. Keep the message simple and clear. Americans are generally stupid and will vote based on the last thing they hear

It's a state issue.

Economy , crime, immigration, education

Education (indoctrination), borders, crime, life, economy… all aspects of a healthy and vibrant culture that resonate with everyone even if they disagree on so-called “choice”.

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