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My cheap Savage bolt action came with an AccuFit stock that is supposed to be Pillar beaded. It is my understanding that the metal pillar should be slightly proud of the plastic (or at least even with the plastic). As you can see, both pillars are hiding inside the plastic. Thus, imo they aren't pillar bedded at all. Am I wrong?

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Originally Posted by BradFord
My cheap Savage bolt action came with an AccuFir stock that is supposed to be Pillar beaded. It is my understanding that the metal pillar should be slightly proud of the plastic (or at least even with the plastic). As you can see, both pillars are hiding inside the plastic. Thus, imo they aren't pillar bedded at all. Am I wrong?

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It has pillars, obviously. It's a factory stock, so you get what you get. Can they get away with saying it's "pillar bedded"? Yes. Is it right: No...


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
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My cheap Savage bolt action came with an AccuFir stock that is supposed to be Pillar beaded. It is my understanding that the metal pillar should be slightly proud of the plastic (or at least even with the plastic). As you can see, both pillars are hiding inside the plastic. Thus, imo they aren't pillar bedded at all. Am I wrong?

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It has pillars, obviously. It's a factory stock, so you get what you get. Can they get away with saying it's "pillar bedded"? Yes. Is it right: No...

Not shockingly, it shot like crap.

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'Technology' for the masses. Marketing 101.

Followed closely by the glut of truly horrible 'aluminum bedding blocks'.

Fortunately though, improvements can be made.

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Well it has pillars. But unfortunately, in the current position they are in they are worthless.

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Hard to tell. It depends on how tight you torque the action screws. Perhaps with 50 ftlbs the pillar actually touches(?)

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pertnear,
My thoughts too.
How soft is the stock, how much compression?

It's not that much short, it may actually come into play to
stop compression.

It is pillar bedded. They might even serve a purpose.
Stress free bedding isn't claimed. Is it?

This is the value line, of a value brand.
It would be fun to play with that, try Farmer Tightening them screws,
see if you can feel it suddenly get solid.

Wouldn't recommend doing that on a gun you GAS about, or, maybe one
should. Figure out what ya got and if it's ok.


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Originally Posted by BradFord
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My cheap Savage bolt action came with an AccuFir stock that is supposed to be Pillar beaded. It is my understanding that the metal pillar should be slightly proud of the plastic (or at least even with the plastic). As you can see, both pillars are hiding inside the plastic. Thus, imo they aren't pillar bedded at all. Am I wrong?

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It has pillars, obviously. It's a factory stock, so you get what you get. Can they get away with saying it's "pillar bedded"? Yes. Is it right: No...

Not shockingly, it shot like crap.

I believe that. The reason I always fine tune the bedding. IE: "properly glass bed" every rifle I own. You'd be surprised that just about every factory rifle has schidt for bedding and accuracy/precision can be improved upon, by the simple feat of glass bedding. Even the aluminum bedding blocks that Al made reference to can be out from action to action, and need a good "skim" bedding. You also have a lot of people here that think you can throw a rifle in a high dollar stock like a Mcmillan, because it's the "best of the best" and can't be improved upon right, and be fine without glass bedding. That is a fool's errand and huge misconception, but those types don't get it. Much like a democrap won't listen to reason. Just my take on what I see here..


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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The the OP, how does it shoot?

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http://erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/i186.html

You could possibly dremel out around the pillar and then install the washers to bring your height back up and free float the action where it is supposed to sit height wise to the stock. Then epoxy/bed the washers and what was dremeled out. I did this to an HS stock once and worked well.


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There seems to be some contact on the rear pillar. But that shows something I had issues with with my Salvages (which now shoot nice).
I think I actually got out a soldering iron and heated the pillars and they came right out, I replaced them with "real" pillars, basically a different kind of tubing, cut a bit longer than the factory items so the action screws don't squish plastic, just steel. I think on one pillar, I just needed to heat it, move it and slip a hot washer into the front screw hole and everything was fine, resulted in a nice "hard" screw torque and pretty groups.

On the rear pillar, my rifles (a 10 FP and a Stevens 200) have the "old" trigger with the dingus/bolt release/cocking indicator, and I ground out the front portion of the dingus thingie so I could put a 360 degree full-circle rear pillar with support both in front and back of the rear action screw. Without the back part of the pillar, there's some action springing and you have to get the torque (not much) exactly perfect every time or it's a different rifle.


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Call Savage, tell them what is going on and what you see and they will send you a new stock.

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Originally Posted by duke61
Call Savage, tell them what is going on and what you see and they will send you a new stock.

The funny thing is they will, but is it going to be any better? Probably not. The cure is to fix the fugging thing youself. You guys act like this is some challenging feat. I get a little fu cking frustrated with the modern man these days. I'm surprised you can wipe your own azzes sometimes..


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Originally Posted by devnull
The the OP, how does it shoot?

Yep.


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How do you guys like the pro bed2000 compared to Acra glass? Got some pro bed to try,always used acraglass gel.

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Originally Posted by EdM
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The the OP, how does it shoot?

Yep.

The second post by the O.P.:

"Not shockingly, it shot like crap".


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Originally Posted by Al_Nyhus
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The the OP, how does it shoot?

Yep.

The second post by the O.P.:

"Not shockingly, it shot like crap".

As we all know the bedding could be only one out of a dozen reasons why it shoots poorly.

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Originally Posted by Phil11
As we all know the bedding could be only one out of a dozen reasons why it shoots poorly.

Yep. smile -Al


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