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The bull in the op’s post wasn’t accidentally killed or illegally killed. It is legal to take the horns
I can keep busting you guys up all night long
Wounding loss is not an accident Is wounding loss considered natural causes? No, it isn’t. We did call FWP about taking the horns and they said no. They told us to call Tip-Mont and report it to them. We did that and never heard back. FWP said NO on the horns, so we left them for the bear. If they don’t know what they’re talking about, who does? Straight from the horses mouth... so to speak You believe that crap? Yes... because it seems like common sense to me. To posses fresh horns during season with out a tag attached seems like a can of worms to me
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The bull in the op’s post wasn’t accidentally killed or illegally killed. It is legal to take the horns
I can keep busting you guys up all night long
Wounding loss is not an accident Is wounding loss considered natural causes? ICYMI
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That's one good thing about hunting the Eastern hardwoods.....you're usually not on the menu.
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The bull in the op’s post wasn’t accidentally killed or illegally killed. It is legal to take the horns
I can keep busting you guys up all night long
Wounding loss is not an accident Is wounding loss considered natural causes? No, it isn’t. We did call FWP about taking the horns and they said no. They told us to call Tip-Mont and report it to them. We did that and never heard back. FWP said NO on the horns, so we left them for the bear. If they don’t know what they’re talking about, who does? Straight from the horses mouth... so to speak You believe that crap? Yes... because it seems like common sense to me. To posses fresh horns during season with out a tag attached seems like a can of worms to me I will go with the regs, it’s worked in the past.
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The bull in the op’s post wasn’t accidentally killed or illegally killed. It is legal to take the horns
I can keep busting you guys up all night long
Wounding loss is not an accident Is wounding loss considered natural causes? ICYMI That means In Case You Missed It callnum.
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Totally agree with you, the new law is BS and opens the door for scumbags to do what they do. While I don't agree with the Buzzster on many political issues I would say that making trafficking in sheep horns more difficult is good policy for wildlife in North America. As far as antlers in Wyoming once a grizzly is on an elk he owns the whole thing. F around on a buried elk and you will get a ticket. If you want the horns come back in a few months and get an interstate game tag. Also don't be a whiney puzzy when you find a grizzly kill. Lookin at you Shrappy.
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Anyways.....Stumbling across a buried animal or near one, is probably how most people get beat up by a grizzly, as opposed to a predatory attack.
My friend who lives near me was walking around above his house, he smelled something dead, briefly looked around, then he saw a grizzly walking around in the thick bush, within 100ft of him lol. He got out of there quick and didn't think the grizzly saw/smelled him. There must of been a buried carcass around there somewhere.
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So serious question: if you are on your elk kill and a grizzly tries to claim it, can you shoot the grizzly? Are you required to give your kill up to a grizzly? Not asking about self defense. But can you defend your kill from a grizzly?
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So serious question: if you are on your elk kill and a grizzly tries to claim it, can you shoot the grizzly? Are you required to give your kill up to a grizzly? Not asking about self defense. But can you defend your kill from a grizzly? Do you enjoy the company of the feds?
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So serious question: if you are on your elk kill and a grizzly tries to claim it, can you shoot the grizzly? Are you required to give your kill up to a grizzly? Not asking about self defense. But can you defend your kill from a grizzly? Tell the Grizz you have an attorney on speed dial
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So serious question: if you are on your elk kill and a grizzly tries to claim it, can you shoot the grizzly? Are you required to give your kill up to a grizzly? Not asking about self defense. But can you defend your kill from a grizzly? That would be an emphatic no. 🦫
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The game warden finally called back, he doesn’t know lost Trail but he does know lost trail is an idiot. The horns were not free for the taking under those circumstances. But it does sound like now it would be between us and the bear if we wanted the horns.
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The game warden finally called back, he doesn’t know lost Trail but he does know lost trail is an idiot. The horns were not free for the taking under those circumstances. But it does sound like now it would be between us and the bear if we wanted the horns. Funny thing tho, the warden captain I talked to said just the opposite and as he put it "its very clear in the regs but most have a hard time reading". I laughed and told him my thoughts exactly.
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The game warden finally called back, he doesn’t know lost Trail but he does know lost trail is an idiot. The horns were not free for the taking under those circumstances. But it does sound like now it would be between us and the bear if we wanted the horns. Funny thing tho, the warden captain I talked to said just the opposite and as he put it "its very clear in the regs but most have a hard time reading". I laughed and told him my thoughts exactly. Yeah, every-body's funnee, now U funnee too. Why was it that U changed user names again?
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The game warden finally called back, he doesn’t know lost Trail but he does know lost trail is an idiot. The horns were not free for the taking under those circumstances. But it does sound like now it would be between us and the bear if we wanted the horns. Funny thing tho, the warden captain I talked to said just the opposite and as he put it "its very clear in the regs but most have a hard time reading". I laughed and told him my thoughts exactly. Seems we have two different stories regarding game wardens interpretation of the law..... From two different posters.... So lets compare the two.... Shrapnel, post pic's, has real relations with other members, doesn't create sock puppets, doesn't hide his identity etc.... Losttrail on the other hand, never post a pic, creates sock puppets, hides his identity, lies etc.... Hmmm who to believe?
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Care to address callnum's assertion you can take the head of an unclaimed hunter kill without tagging it? Should have read farther down. You need reading lessons lol I need a hell of a lot more than that!
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Very cool thread and pics - thanks Shrapnel! This is what I come to the ‘fire for.
The only stashed kill I’ve come upon was a sheep killed by a lion and stuffed into shallow cave. That was on a bluff above the Pecos river and the pucker factor wasn’t on the same chart as this!
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Death from an arrow or bullet is not “ natural causes” under Montana law. Shrapnel’s report from the warden is correct. Do not follow alternative interpretation.
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So serious question: if you are on your elk kill and a grizzly tries to claim it, can you shoot the grizzly? Are you required to give your kill up to a grizzly? Not asking about self defense. But can you defend your kill from a grizzly? With the exception of Alaska in every state I am aware of you can’t do squat about a grizzly bear claiming your dead elk or whatever you have down. The only reason I would except AK is if you have a valid tag or are in an open brown/griz unit and that bear doesn’t have cubs—-IE, if you could kill that bear anyhow, even if it wasn’t claiming your carcass. The way I understand it, Alaska nor other states does not consider harvested game (even if hanging in your camp) as your “property” when it comes to bears. I presume the Yukon is the same, but don’t really know.
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