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I think that is because Atheists, Agnostics, and Believers in a super natural power have no real explanation of where all this matter and energy originated other than we now know there was a beginning eons ago and there is no rational explanation other than a super natural power.

I live in the real world. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I respond on forum threads, therefore I am.

The correct answer is: we don't know.

And the rational thing to do is refrain from making up or adopting explanations because they may be appealing and/or they offer an impression of having answers where there are no actual answers or explanations.

What could be their motivation in jumping into a thread about God, who they claim doesn’t exist? Why are they so drawn to a belief system they totally disagree with?

Of course not, thats a stupid thing to say.

I was meaning that there was a fairy tale started a while back that indicated that the world was about that old. It contained a whole bunch of other crazy ass shit too, including some events in the area and timeframe that you mention.

You seize on the question of creationism so that you have an excuse to ignore the evidence of the resurrection. You repeat the "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" mantra despite the extraordinary evidence presented. But, you weren't there with Thomas to see it for yourself; so therefore in your mind it didn't happen.

It’s interesting that you are accusing those with whom you disagree of confirmation bias yet so called scientists, who are in many cases nothing more than practitioners of scientism, practice confirmation bias on a regular basis.
It is a dishonest argument.

Only part of the observable world can meet your criteria of empirical data confirmation. I don’t believe that you are a moron nor do you appear to be mentally retarded. You obviously have an ax to grind with Christians and against Christianity. Do you grind that same ax against Buddhists, Muslims, Christian scientists, Mormons, Watchtower Society?

Well. Hells bells. Why am I asking you these questions since I cannot confirm that you are a person and actually exist? For all we know you are a bot being driven by an advanced algorithm, a covert plant hired to disrupt or maybe a sock puppet. It is interesting that Mauser and DBT usually turn up at the same time tag teaming on the religious threads.


NAH. You’re just the pigment of our imaginations.

Without empirical evidence there is no way that we know that you are.

Please provide us with empirical evidence. Name. Address.profession. Work address. We need to verify your existence. Otherwise you seen nothing more than 0’s and 1’s.

Like clockwork, these two atheists just can’t help themselves and show up every single time, like moths drawn to a flame. What could be their motivation in jumping into a thread about God, who they claim doesn’t exist. Why are they so drawn to a belief system they totally disagree with.

Is it because they think they have won the debate just by showing up, or is it extreme arrogance, or is it because they are unsure of their own belief system? Strange indeed.

Well I could do that and people could even verify it.

Interesting point you raised, even a bot has more substance than god.

The correct answer is: we don't know.

And the rational thing to do is refrain from making up or adopting explanations because they may be appealing and/or they offer an impression of having answers where there are no actual answers or explanations.

I think that is because Atheists, Agnostics, and Believers in a super natural power have no real explanation of where all this matter and energy originated other than we now know there was a beginning eons ago and there is no rational explanation other than a super natural power.

Everything you mentioned can be seen and in some cases touched. But I can't get a satisfactory explanation of how it is possible for everything in the universe to be pulled into a tiny bit of matter smaller than an atom and then in a great cataclysmic explosion create the seemingly endless universe that we can see only a small part of. On top of that I would have to believe even in billions of years life as we know it evolved to where it is now. I can believe in adaptive evolution but I'm not up to believing a fungus, a virus, a one cell organism eventually became a tree, a cow, or a man.I can believe the human/[bleep] common ancestor or the various equine species common origin but not the amoeba to fish to man theory.

So I would guess most people harbor a belief in the supernatural, and as to this thread I personally believe the supernatural power of the universe sent his messenger Jesus just as he sent the previous prophets and messengers that were never well received.

There is a lot I don't understand and I certainly can't quite get a God with the power to stop it allowing mankind to run amok but it will all make sense by and by.

I knew exactly what you were trying to say; my response was rhetorical, and I think you know that.

You seize on the question of creationism so that you have an excuse to ignore the evidence of the resurrection. You repeat the "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" mantra despite the extraordinary evidence presented. But, you weren't there with Thomas to see it for yourself; so therefore in your mind it didn't happen. Thus my statement of history beginning with your arrival on the scene. And round and round we go.

Ha...good one....

I think our 2 Atheists are trying to duct tape morality onto their nihilism and have it be rational. They are doing it to feel good and to appear normal instead of wearing their nihilism (Relentless negativity or cynicism suggesting an absence of values or beliefs) openly. But their faked morality is not even close to the morality of us Christians……we go against their self-interest because we imitate the self-sacrificial love of Christ, who gave himself as a ransom to save others. That makes no sense to the Atheist worldview, as this life is all the atheist have, and there is no afterlife where their actions are in the context of a relationship with that self-sacrificial Son of God. In any case, free will doesn’t exist to them, so that means no moral choices… These are the common sense implications of atheist first principles…no free will, no right and wrong, no life after death.

I demand that you tell me who and what you are. I demand that you give me exacting evidence per my criteria of who what you are. You have no right to reveal to me who you think you are with criteria that you determine. You are under the highest in strongest obligation to meet my demands because I place those demands on you.

From now on Mauser is known as “ Random Data”. DBT is now known as “Half Byte”. Atheist superhero and sidekick. Together the collective conceptualization of the two thoughts are no more significant than imaginary metaphorical Loftstrand crutches for the mentally disabled.

You will remain so until you meet my demand for evidence of your existence and until I find satisfaction with the evidence provided. If I am not satisfied with the evidence that you provide, I will demand more and different evidence. You are without identity, NPC binary and nothing else.

I've always been good at maths. Maths has real world meaning with demonstratable truths in its applications and outcomes.

Nothing to do with you not answering my questions, just another diversion.

IZH27…..

You make a good point. Note MMan’s response to the question “Is your name Albert?”

His response seems not to demonstrate much comprehension of question nor of the issue in the story.

Mindless bot? Perhaps.. he really cannot discuss anything, he only asks off target questions and responds with the same dull mindless dronings….Always yapping and never understanding….?

Troll motivated by frustration….or insecurity or ?….. perhaps…but a Johnny One-Note troll for sure.

Pretty easy to dismiss him as unprofitable in any serious discussion.