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I had both a 88 corolla and a 97 Taco that were flawless. I disliked the 2009 Taco with a passion. Cheap to run, for sure, but, bleh, it was like driving a sponge.

As far as the video above, I ordered a Maverick even though I'm not a fan of domestic brands in general, specifically because of my last Tacoma. It was too big to be small enough, and to small to be big enough. Power was lacking, the transmission spent more time hunting than I do, and the fuel consumption was about the same as an F150, if not worse. The only selling point was longevity, which I acknowledge. But in the case of the Tacoma, I enjoyed the reliability for a long time, in discomfort. Yes, the Taco is going to outlast the Mav, but it's also 35% more expensive, gets much worse fuel economy (30%), and is less comfortable. Since I'm not looking for a trail capable vehicle, the nod goes to the Mav.


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My Toyotas have been very trouble free.


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Originally Posted by org_Rogue_Hunter
HOWEVER, the 2010 Tacoma I have now has been one thing after the next: of course the frame issue; left front wheel bearing; both struts; both u-joints; cabin fan motor; and now the motor assy. for the DS power window is giving out.

The struts and u-joints were covered by Toyota...but, it's that my trust in "Toyota quality" has been shaken...1 for 4 is mostly pretty good, but 25% failure rate???
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Seems like if you get a bad one, theres no fixing it. I have a '14 f150 5.0 that is like that. Biggest POS I have ever owned.
The '04 tacoma has been a damn good truck

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Have owned Lariat, Explorer, Yukon, GMC Suburban, Land Cruiser and Tundra 4x4's. My 2000 Tundra has been the best of all. Quality far above Ford and GMC. I trust Toyota.


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A Taco, FJ40, FJ Cruiser and next I’ll add a FJ60 to the stable.

My Ram 2500 for pulling, they are the Toys.

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Am on my third Tundra. None of my Tundras were ever in a dealership for repairs.
Had a F150 in between, it was in the dealership six times in the year I owned it (all under warranty). The F150 was a more refined vehicle and I really liked it but had no faith in it for the long term.

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Toyota may not be jumping on the EV bandwagon, but they're losing me with their push to small displacement turbo engines. More complicated more stressed is NEVER BETTER.

Not sure what I'll do for my next truck, but after driving Tundras for 22+ years, the new Tundra leaves me cold in every way.


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I tend toward Toyota offerings, some Hondas, and full-size Ford trucks. We currently have an newer F150 and Camry, along with a 10yr old Accord and Highlander. About as exciting as vanilla ice cream, but they are good for what they are.


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My Tundra is a 14, wife's 4 Runner is a 16, no issues so far.
W e both feel we bought the best available

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I tip de chauffeur when it was ova and i gave her my OWWN ride

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Great. Now that's playing in my head....


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Originally Posted by tikkanut
Toyota vs the new Ford Maverick

It would seem their new "truck" will be unibody then?

Maybe like a Subaru BRAT?

Could be interesting for light duty stuff, gravel roads, trips to town, especially if it comes in around $20K as that video title suggests.

I'd look into one to augment the '01 Tacoma and '16 RAV4 since our nice little Matrix wanted to go for a swim one day. A third vehicle would come in handy.


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Originally Posted by slumlord
I tip de chauffeur when it was ova and i gave her my OWWN ride
That from one of them rap crap songs you like?

Which one?


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Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by tikkanut
Toyota vs the new Ford Maverick

It would seem their new "truck" will be unibody then?

Maybe like a Subaru BRAT?

Could be interesting for light duty stuff, gravel roads, trips to town, especially if it comes in around $20K as that video title suggests.

I'd look into one to augment the '01 Tacoma and '16 RAV4 since our nice little Matrix wanted to go for a swim one day. A third vehicle would come in handy.

It's a unibody trucklet, more like the Ridgeline than the Brat. Ford offers them with tow options and "off road" (i.e. off pavement) packages, but skid plates make sense even running gravel roads. They sold out in 7 days for the 2023 model last month, and they go for an average premium of 18% over sticker if you find one on a lot somewhere. They make a lot of sense for a parts runner or delivery outfit, especially with the hybrid rated at 40 mpg city. The 2L gas motor is rated 28 HWY w. the AWD.


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I agree, but a lot of it has to do with the local "stealership". Luckily I have has nothing but good experiences out of mine. I have a 22 year old Tundra I wouldn't trade for one of the new turbo V6 models if I had to keep it and drive it every day.

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I've decided the 3g Taco will be my next truck. Basically means a 22 or 23 whenever they hit the lot.


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Originally Posted by tzone
I trust Toyota. But I trust my Ford more. It's a better truck than my Tundra was and I liked the Tundra a lot.

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Originally Posted by reivertom
I agree, but a lot of it has to do with the local "stealership". Luckily I have has nothing but good experiences out of mine. I have a 22 year old Tundra I wouldn't trade for one of the new turbo V6 models if I had to keep it and drive it every day.

I have 2 toyota dealers and 3 honda dealers within a short drive. The 2 toyota dealers have very very competent mechanics, bring it in with a problem it gets fixed . The honda dealers are hit and miss.l The Ford, Chevy and Ram dealers are a joke.

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Still want to know the cost of the batteries that drive the electric motor in that Prius. Not the one that starts the gas engine..mb


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