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He's tryin ta outdo his covtard threads, where he spammed propaganda and predicted we were all gonna die.

He was FOS then, he's FOS now, and this thread's gonna turn out the same way.

Somebody should start a thread ta help the bitch pick a new troll handle, when this thread splooges all over his face.

I think you’re exactly right. The boy spoke too soon.

That raises the questions:

1) Why hasn’t Russia taken everything it wants already?

2) Why hasn’t the umbrella already knocked the Ukes back?

It sounds like you’re saying Russia is like a cat playing with a mouse. It looks more like some hulking, drunk goon in a bar tried starting a fight with a smaller guy, and the smaller guy turned out to be a featherweight boxing champ. Suddenly, the outcome of the fight doesn’t look so certain.

I agree Russia is building up for a counter-offensive. That’s what you do when the other side launches and effective offensive. But I don’t think the recent Uke gains were expected nor tactically planned by Russia.

This looks like a loss (at least temporarily) and an embarrassment for Russia, much like the 40 mile convoy that the commie-lovers all swore was some kind of a genius feint. Funny, the commie-lovers don’t want to bring that up anymore.

No.

This raises the questions:

1) Why are you such a liberal douchebag?

2) Why did your troll ass come outta nowhere ta be concerned bout how Russia was kickin the shat outta cuckraine?

It sounds like you're a liberal piece a shat that can't accept that cuckraine's lost its ass in every battle so far, which of course is the case.

The outcome of the fight is certain. cuckraine will sign a cease fire agreement conceding the disputed territory to Russia.

The only embarrassment, is you liberal Brandon ball suckers that won't accept that your money-laundering scheme is gonna be put partially outta business.

Why are you so invested in a criminal enterprise being able to continue in its business?

Poland will take the western half of Ukraine. Russia gets the East. There will be a rump state of Ukraine left in the middle.

It is not well known but old toot has Alzheimer's and is only able to communicate by cut and paste or when his nurse aid assists him to form sentences, albeit incoherently.

So one must have pity for him.

Sorry but I disagree.

MAGA no money; Republicans in general are pussies like Georgie II.

They’ll have to grow spines between now and Jan I doubt it’ll happen.

He still has his Israeli citizenship.

By Russian law, Russia was limited in the response it could take fighting in foreign territory. Once the Donbass republics voted to become part of the Federation, different laws applied. Putin is not crazy, he is not the dictator we make him out to be. They have a constitution and laws they follow. This escalation had to be voted on and signed off on by numerous legal entities.

Umbrella? Usually an umbrella keeps things from falling on you. What are you talking about? The latest offensive bombing? I think that has affected the front-line Ukes. They are pulling manpower away from different fronts.

I don't think Russia planned on there being the level of foreign support for Ukraine that there has been, nor on the intransigence that Ukrainian leadership has displayed.

Let's face it, Ukraine had 8 years to defeat a bunch of separatist hicks and they couldn't do it. Ukraine would have folded months ago if not for American intervention.

To answer the question I put in bold: Putin wanted to take back what he wanted with limited infrastructure damage. It does him no good to have to rebuild an area he destroyed. I think he was holding back. He may or may not have expected the support Ukraine received primarily from the US. With that said, the gloves came off with the bridge bombing. Kiev is in big trouble, as is most of the country come winter. I don't think he wanted to put them in the dark and cold, since he needs to show some form of restraint when it comes to civilians. They poked him with a stick, and he hit them back with club.

JMO


Clyde

Who knows? Maybe the Russians see an advantage in not going all in and defeating Ukraine quickly? Russia is fighting with its own money and the west is further bankrupting itself. How many billion is NATO in so far?

I don’t think Russia or the US planned on a war like this.

For Russia’s part I think they planned on going in there, taking the territory they wanted and making a quick deal after showing people they weren’t fcking around. They didn’t plan on this level of foreign support that is in and of itself so damaging to the Ukraine and the western nations themselves.

I think the US hawks saw an opportunity to make Russia bleed and took it.

The danger is that the Russians aren’t going to back down with this being in their backyard anymore than we would if we had invaded northern Mexico. And the American plan is sort of ad hoc with no real plan of what victory looks like except for complete Russian capitulation which isn’t realistic unless there is a direct war between the US and Russia.

No matter how many billions of dollars we send them, Ukraine will never able to defeat Russia on the battlefield. I guess from an American hawk perspective the best outcome is a bleeding sore that costs Russia men and money and eventually fatally undermines Russia and the Putin regime. Of course, the problem with that is that history shows us that such uncertainty would likely bring a MORE hardline and anti-western regime into being.

It’s a very dangerous, wasteful, and useless endeavor that if it doesn’t get us killed in the short term, is going to have cascading ramifications for decades to come if not longer with all kinds of unforeseeable outcomes.

Agreed


I don't think the evidence supports that. They went after Kiev, expecting Kiev to fall easily, because Putin believed the crap his lackeys were telling him.



Agreed. And, based on the international community's tepid response to Putin's "little green men" who began the invasion years ago, had Putin stuck to his Sudetendland script and only invaded the Russophone areas, I don't believe he would have faced that level of foreign support. Just more sanctions.



I think the Eussian hawks saw an opportunity to invade Ukraine and took it.



Agreed.

I've said this before, but I don't think there's a "win" in this for Putin. At this point he still has support at home, but he's lost it among the international world, INCLUDING the Russian diaspora.

The longer this goes on, the more resources it chews up, the less able Putin will be able to deal with things he could normally deal with easily by throwing some resources at it. Problems in neighboring countries like Georgia and Belarus, problems in Russian states like Chechnya, problems like blown up pipelines. His opponents, as well as opportunists, will start probing, trying to find the weakest points, more and more.

Even IF Putin can turn the Ukraine story around by going "total war", he'll never get the credibility back that he's lost. And the total war option may or may not be a realistic option.

What world leader has credibility?

Biden?
Truss?
the clown dwarf thief Zelensky?

Americans still do not understand Russia and have no interest in doing so

lol

Nah, the war makes him stronger. Russia and Russians have a strong persecution complex. This just makes him more popular with the average Russian.

Does the US have any liability for this war?

How many sovereign countries has the US invaded without cause since wwII?

Thank you for a meaningful response.

I used the term umbrella because Fubarski did.

Russians don't have a persecution complex. They are paranoid though with good reason