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Diatribe, yet none of that proves a god.

Logic is not your strong point. Nor manners, tolerance, reason or debate. Your specialty is hurling insults. Yet even there, because it's school boy level, infantile, you fail.

Which is an acknowledgement that I did not lie. That your accusation was false.




You are confusing the heck out of yourself....
1. Proof is the final verdict that removes all doubts....yes or no?
2. Proof is conclusive; evidence is not necessarily conclusive.
3. Evidence and proof are closely related.
4. Proof comes from evidence....we gather evidence to help prove something.
5. No one can “prove” that God the Bible or any other ultimate tenet of religious faith is TRUE.
6. You are twisting again....you left the following out, which changes the context... "evidence only LEADS one in the DIRECTION of a fact or statement." Evidence is what I HOPE is true, I guess that HOPE of mine, is called FAITH.....REMEMBER, NOT MAUSER PROOF!
7. You said...." Which is an acknowledgement that I did not lie. That your accusation was false." That is true, does make you happier? Geeeesch!

***DBT, regarding Aces statement...and other than you saying "If you were “vaxxed” and boosted and you try to use facts and evidence and scientific-y stuff to hide behind you’re an egotistical dumb ass."

Did you get the drift?

Great answer Tweedle Dumbfuck. We can’t all be expected to use such incredible intelligence to discern the facts from the bullshit like you two Einstein’s. Your incredible grasp of science and your fervent demands for irrefutable evidence is what led you 2 butt pirates to get “vaccinated”?

Throw some logic out there for us wouldja?…is it logical to be forced into “voluntarily” submitting yourself for human trials and medical experimentation whether you want to or not? Since you 2 dipshits fancy yourselves as mental giants…a duo powerhouse of intellect and reason that only you two recognize maybe you could explain how your “vaccination” meets the DEFINITION of a vaccine, a real actual vaccine?

Well speaking for myself, and thinking about when I'm due for the next booster *, I don't understand your point. Are you saying all of science is wrong then, and that the earth is flat, there was a global flood, the sun and stars revolve around the earth, the firmament is supported by turtles, whales are fish, snakes and donkeys talk etc, and that therefore god? As a result of the handling of Covid-19 and the vaccinations - therefore god?

(* This stuff hasn't killed me yet, and I kinda feel that it makes me stronger. I love to taunt the alpha-Karens with it.)

Your Nappy may need changing, Sweetie. Don't cry, someone'll come along and change it.

It’s been said that John 3:16 is the Gospel in a nutshell.

Christianity…in a nutshell…started with an event in history ~ the resurrection of Jesus. And immediately following His resurrection, there was a new movement. It was the ekklesia of Jesus; the body of believers that was eventually called the church. And during these historical times, people who were involved in these events documented them for us. They were eyewitness accounts. This is how we got the four Gospels and the Book of Acts. All of it happened in the first century before 70 AD, when the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed.

So within 35 years or so of the time of Jesus, these things were documented by people who were part of the movement. And then about 255 plus years later, the first Christian Bible was assembled. This is important because the narrative of Jesus is why there is a Christian Bible. Jesus is the reason for ‘the Bible’.

People need to understand that if there’d been no resurrection, there would’ve been no church. And if there’d been no church, there would’ve been no one to document anything. Apart from Jesus’ resurrection, there would be no Christian Bible. So, regarding the OP, people need to understand that when they walk away from Christianity…and their reason’s for doing so typically have nothing to do with anything that’s foundational to the faith…they’re not only walking away from an event in history, they’re actually walking away from a person ~ Jesus.

These are not my words; they come from an article by Dr. Pierre Kory and is part of an anonymous essay on Substack. It is about the COVID situation, but the principles apply here as well. Of course, at this point there hasn't been a total censorship of Christian viewpoints; but anyone with eyes to see can't help but notice the trend in that direction. Denial of the "preponderance of the evidence" seems to occur in matters of theology as well as medicine.

"In many ways, forcing two opposing viewpoints to present their evidence and then having the appropriate parties determine which side presented the preponderance of evidence and thus “wins” is the best solution our species has developed for settling otherwise irreconcilable differences of opinion.

Unfortunately, as our times have shown, the natural response to having our society place a heavy weight on “evidence” is to have dishonest parties “win,” not by being on the side with the best evidence, but rather by buying out the entire evidence base and censoring the opposition — effectively creating a much more sophisticated form of “might makes right.”

In many ways, the anatomy of corruption within “science-based” medicine is quite simple and like many other things in business, continually reuses the same formulas. As a result, once you understand how corruption plays out in a few areas, it becomes feasible to understand how things will play out in many others.

I thus would argue many of the events we witnessed throughout COVID-19 (e.g. the sudden extreme censorship of scientific debate recently detailed by Pierre Kory), simply represents all of this longstanding corruption metastasizing to a degree which finally became visible to the general public."

from: https://www.theepochtimes.com/healt...e=partner&utm_campaign=BonginoReport

The trust in science when applied to any discipline is always dependent upon the honesty, integrity, self questioning and introspection of the practitioner.

All science is hamstrung with such a handicap. This is what is so laughable about the atheists willingness to rely on humanity selectively.

This is the gist of Chesterton’s The Ball & The Cross which I’m reading now.

Excellent story deeply compelling and well thought out.

Yep there is no getting around faith.

Even if the practitioner is an honest actor, there are more fundamental questions around the nature of rationality itself… that is, if there is no God (that is, transcendent rationality) and everything “just is” aren’t you running on faith when you believe your senses and your thoughts?

People who push this stuff can’t even prove they exist, or that they have free will or a rational mind. Yet they mock us.

Fundamental lack of intellectual honesty, hubris, and chronological snobbery combined together to make some of the most charming individuals out there…

Given "The Church's" history of persecuting any they declared to be a heretic, up to and including burning them at the stake, for something close to 1500 years; Swamplord's cartoon could more accurately depict Christians as the mad mob pointing at an "unbeliever".

Very well stated. I’ve been asking for that proof of existence from random data and half byte. So far, no validation of life on those accounts.

Do you have a rationale to back up your claim against the church at large or can that claim only be levied against the church when it was used for political purposes rather than its intended purpose?

The church used for political purposes??????
Surely you jest!

When the church is writing the laws of the land. When the church is directing the marriages of Princes and Princesses. When the church has to approve the ascendency of kings and queens.

The church is the political body.

No. The church isn’t a political body. It has been abused and used as such but it isn’t intended to be political. If you are speaking about the RC church I can see your point. I don’t factor the RC church into my thinking.

Damn....this was/is enlightening....