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Originally Posted by hosfly
So you are for NATO?

In this case, yes.

Putin seems worried and concerned about it. Poland enjoys membership as do some soon to be new members, Sweden and Finland. There’s very good reasons for European Nations to belong.

We might take note that all have increased their military spending budgets as have non members in the Pacific Rim Nations.

Now if you want to discuss the United Nations, I have far different feelings on that org.

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Do you realize the closer Putin comes to defeat and is backed further and further into a corner the closer we are to nuclear war with Russia. Or at the least the total destruction of Ukraine and the resulting nuclear aftermath. Do you think he's going to face defeat, humiliation, and possible overthrow without playing his full deck? And that he has already suggested he could do? I haven't known him to bluff yet.

Nuclear War on behalf of who controls Crimea and the Donbas???....Nuclear War? How many Americans do you think give a rat's fugh who controls these territories? I'll bet 9 out of 10 Americans couldn't tell you where these territories are let alone who controls them.

Be careful what you wish for.

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^^^
No one has wished for that or even implied such. You might feel a differently if you lived in Europe or had once been under Soviet domination.

Putin is a bully pure and simple. The BBC recently printed that the British Intelligence had eavesdropped on a conversation with putin and Turkey’s Erdogan where putin clearly stated he wanted to negotiate in order to keep the Crimea. Whether that’s true or not is up for grabs.

Questions for you.
Considering Putin’s invasions of Georgia, the Crimea and now Ukraine, where does he stop? You okay with that?

Why did he go begging Hat in hand to two Terrorist Nations (Iran and North Korea) for drones, rockets and munitions? You’re okay with that?

Putin has ursurped many signed contracts that Russia agreed to. You’re okay with that?

Putin has imprisoned over 15,000 of his countrymen for speaking out against the war. 10 years prison sentence for even calling the invasion of Ukraine a “war”. You okay with that ?

Putin and the Kremlin are having enough of their own internal problems right now.

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Nato is the world bank,UN,WEF,Who,CDC, gloabalist,soros ,Schwab,Multiculturism. And All things anti-American! Being for nato is basically being for socialism. I for one am sick an tired of, an fed the fuQ up,of working my ass off an watching 33% of my gross pay going to countries and elites,who look down their nose At America her core values, GOD, an the very same person that provides it. So you being for Nato puts you in their group,across the tracks from the backbone of America,


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Well now, looking like 71,000 on the horizon possibly.

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Putin declares martial law in the illegally annexed portions of the Ukraine that have yet to have the borders defined by putin or the Kremlin.

WAPO, Reuters, BBC

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EU imposing deeper and more far reaching sanctions against Iran for supplying drones to putin.

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Originally Posted by hosfly
Nato is the world bank,UN,WEF,Who,CDC, gloabalist,soros ,Schwab,Multiculturism. And All things anti-American! Being for nato is basically being for socialism. I for one am sick an tired of, an fed the fuQ up,of working my ass off an watching 33% of my gross pay going to countries and elites,who look down their nose At America her core values, GOD, an the very same person that provides it. So you being for Nato puts you in their group,across the tracks from the backbone of America,


You’re fulla scchitt.

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Israel says that they will continue to side with the west concerning Ukraine and they will continue with their humanitarian relief contributions but will not be a part of installing the air defense systems.

BBC, The Jerusalem Post

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Elon Musk clearly states that he will not get into the business of building weapons of war such as drones or rockets used for war purposes.

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I wish Putin were as bad as some of you allege. If he were, the chances of him rolling all the way to the channel and ridding us of all those whiny [bleep] and their pathetic little countries would be pretty high.

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The Ignores are beginning to show up. Howler Monkeys are stirring.

This is a good thing.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
^^^
No one has wished for that or even implied such. You might feel a differently if you lived in Europe or had once been under Soviet domination.

Putin is a bully pure and simple. The BBC recently printed that the British Intelligence had eavesdropped on a conversation with putin and Turkey’s Erdogan where putin clearly stated he wanted to negotiate in order to keep the Crimea. Whether that’s true or not is up for grabs.

Questions for you.
Considering Putin’s invasions of Georgia, the Crimea and now Ukraine, where does he stop? You okay with that?

Why did he go begging Hat in hand to two Terrorist Nations (Iran and North Korea) for drones, rockets and munitions? You’re okay with that?

Putin has ursurped many signed contracts that Russia agreed to. You’re okay with that?

Putin has imprisoned over 15,000 of his countrymen for speaking out against the war. 10 years prison sentence for even calling the invasion of Ukraine a “war”. You okay with that ?

Putin and the Kremlin are having enough of their own internal problems right now.

Jmo
So fuggin what. Let Putin take back that land. America can stay out of it. Nuclear war and WW3 is not worth any of it. Screw Ukraine. Screw their queer cross dressing so called leader. Screw you for backing them and looking for war.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Israel says that they will continue to side with the west concerning Ukraine and they will continue with their humanitarian relief contributions but will not be a part of installing the air defense systems.

BBC, The Jerusalem Post
fuQ Isreal too! Jews providing help to other jews with the millions America sends them everyday! For what? The quicker that whole part of the world gets smoked the quicker the we can get along with our own business of helping our own


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Originally Posted by hosfly
Nato is the world bank,UN,WEF,Who,CDC, gloabalist,soros ,Schwab,Multiculturism. And All things anti-American! Being for nato is basically being for socialism. I for one am sick an tired of, an fed the fuQ up,of working my ass off an watching 33% of my gross pay going to countries and elites,who look down their nose At America her core values, GOD, an the very same person that provides it. So you being for Nato puts you in their group,across the tracks from the backbone of America,
Well said!

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by hosfly
Nato is the world bank,UN,WEF,Who,CDC, gloabalist,soros ,Schwab,Multiculturism. And All things anti-American! Being for nato is basically being for socialism. I for one am sick an tired of, an fed the fuQ up,of working my ass off an watching 33% of my gross pay going to countries and elites,who look down their nose At America her core values, GOD, an the very same person that provides it. So you being for Nato puts you in their group,across the tracks from the backbone of America,


You’re fulla scchitt.
You are nothing more than a useless internet troll. Congrats

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Putin has ursurped many signed contracts that Russia agreed to. You’re okay with that?

Putin has imprisoned over 15,000 of his countrymen for speaking out against the war. 10 years prison sentence for even calling the invasion of Ukraine a “war”. You okay with that ?

Putin and the Kremlin are having enough of their own internal problems right now.

Jmo

Everything you have railed about above is EXACTLY what the USA has done. We promised the Russians after the wall came down that NATO wouldn’t be encroaching or moving “1 inch to the East” yet we obviously lied about that. You’re okay with that?

We have God only knows how many political prisoners (US citizens) in unknown jails and locations. We have citizens that have been illegally incarcerated for exercising their Constitutional rights. You’re okay with that? We have patriotic and law abiding citizens incarcerated for unknown reasons, illegally incarcerated for speaking out about the bullshit sham election. You’re okay with that?

We lied to all of Europe, we destroyed the Nordstream pipeline, we abandoned our people in Afghanistan, we continue to fail as a country to live up to our promises and obligations….you’re okay with that?

Our economy is spiraling out of control and our country is an absolute mess and you want to ignore our problems so as to project our international incompetence and failed foreign policy through gun-barrel diplomacy…..you’re okay with that?

I can’t support imposing our will on the rest of the world while we are failing miserably at home….I’m not okay with any of the bullshit the deep state is pushing worldwide! I’m not ok with ignoring our country, ignoring our citizens, ignoring our borders, ignoring our economic woes while pretending that we’re “helping” a sh.ithole like Ukraine. You’re okay with throwing our people away in favor of Ukrainians?

We can’t protect and we place NO priority on defending OUR BORDERS yet we’re supposed to believe that the sanctity of Ukraine’s borders are undeniable…..you’re okay with that?


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Originally Posted by gunchamp
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by hosfly
Nato is the world bank,UN,WEF,Who,CDC, gloabalist,soros ,Schwab,Multiculturism. And All things anti-American! Being for nato is basically being for socialism. I for one am sick an tired of, an fed the fuQ up,of working my ass off an watching 33% of my gross pay going to countries and elites,who look down their nose At America her core values, GOD, an the very same person that provides it. So you being for Nato puts you in their group,across the tracks from the backbone of America,


You’re fulla scchitt.
You are nothing more than a useless internet troll. Congrats

How smart are you responding to useless “trolls”?

If you don’t like, don’t read it. That’s simple enough even for you, Forrest Gump.

Better yet, try Ignore. Someone here can show your dumbass how to do it.

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If Putin werent such a pussy he wouldve smoked that nest roaches out, by now the survivors wouldve been acclimated an back to work.


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by Houston_2
Putin has ursurped many signed contracts that Russia agreed to. You’re okay with that?

Putin has imprisoned over 15,000 of his countrymen for speaking out against the war. 10 years prison sentence for even calling the invasion of Ukraine a “war”. You okay with that ?

Putin and the Kremlin are having enough of their own internal problems right now.

Jmo

Everything you have railed about above is EXACTLY what the USA has done. We promised the Russians after the wall came down that NATO wouldn’t be encroaching or moving “1 inch to the East” yet we obviously lied about that. You’re okay with that?

We have God only knows how many political prisoners (US citizens) in unknown jails and locations. We have citizens that have been illegally incarcerated for exercising their Constitutional rights. You’re okay with that? We have patriotic and law abiding citizens incarcerated for unknown reasons, illegally incarcerated for speaking out about the bullshit sham election. You’re okay with that?

We lied to all of Europe, we destroyed the Nordstream pipeline, we abandoned our people in Afghanistan, we continue to fail as a country to live up to our promises and obligations….you’re okay with that?

Our economy is spiraling out of control and our country is an absolute mess and you want to ignore our problems so as to project our international incompetence and failed foreign policy through gun-barrel diplomacy…..you’re okay with that?

I can’t support imposing our will on the rest of the world while we are failing miserably at home….I’m not okay with any of the bullshit the deep state is pushing worldwide! I’m not ok with ignoring our country, ignoring our citizens, ignoring our borders, ignoring our economic woes while pretending that we’re “helping” a sh.ithole like Ukraine. You’re okay with throwing our people away in favor of Ukrainians?

We can’t protect and we place NO priority on defending OUR BORDERS yet we’re supposed to believe that the sanctity of Ukraine’s borders are undeniable…..you’re okay with that?


As usual, Aces, you’ve presented a very well thought out post. I cannot argue against anything that you’ve laid out.

Our own history is hardly a stellar one but with warts and all we’re still regarded as the leader of what’s left of the Free World but I agree that that window appears to be closing fast and with the shade pulled down behind it.

It appears that we’re still the cleanest dirty shirt in the closet. I’m hopeful of meaningful changes in November but I’m not that optimistic.

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