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Not really. One of your guys got bitten by the way:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-03-31/shell-qld-citipoint-resignation-brian-mulheran/100956022

True wokeness affecting Queensland...that is happening all over the world, unfortunately.

Yes, those are my ideas, not Blounts...That is your opinions/ideas, and I have mine.....his own Christianity was founded exclusively on reason, but later denied miracles, attacked religion and other Christian religious ideals....the poor gentleman took his own life in the end.

Of course the rules of the bible are unjust - it's there for all to read. No more religious exemptions allowed. I guess for Principal Mulheran it was either god's way or the highway, and everyone overwhelmingly nominated the highway.

The quote by Blount expresses a basic fact: that faith allows anything to be believed - however absurd - because no evidence or rigorous inquiry or testing is needed....it is enough to just believe whatever is in a 'holy book' and told by priests and pastors who study it: a collection of works written and compiled by human minds and human hands, expressing what was believed by people centuries past who had no idea of the scope and scale of the universe or our infinitesimal place in it....which was discovered by science, not faith or religion.

Creation itself is evidence for God. All of creation…the universe and everything in it…was created by a Creator. It’s not rational or logical to think that it all just came about on it’s own. Like Socrates and former world renowned atheist Anthony Flew, one can simply follow the evidence. And the evidence from science and natural theology makes it possible to rationally and logically advance belief in a Creator of the universe and everything in it.

I don’t have enough faith to be an atheist.

Same here.

Any inclination towards atheism I may have ever felt has been thoroughly extinguished by the ones on this thread. Thank you!

You good folks are way smarter than I.

I don’t think that the person responsible for running those accounts understands how much they are being laughed at.

Antlers,
Your views are always worthy of an extra measure of respect. I appreciate your parts in these discussions.

I do fail though, at understanding how God can spring from nothing, or be eternal. But the Universe itself can not.

Humans are very limited at "understanding" past a certain point.

I don't understand gravity. But it obviously exists.

I can't get much explanation for gravity other than it exists. A spinning wheel throws stuff off, so rotation doesn't cause it. Einstein had a theory that is over my head but getting over my head isn't hard. Basically mass creates pull but no real good explanation why.

I appreciate the kind words sir. Thank You. On the flip side, do you also fail though, at understanding how intelligent life can spring from nothing, but a divine awareness could not…?

Kudos to you for posing genuine questions and for not being hostile to the answers you get. Much appreciated.

I don’t see science as being an enemy to theists at all. I see science as being an ally to theists. By following the evidence, one can rationally and logically promote belief in a Creator of the universe and everything in it. Our universe has intricate laws, and I see science as showing that they’re not the byproduct of mindless and purposeless forces. I see science as showing that life and reproduction originate from a divine Source.

I see that science points to God by the fact that nature obeys laws. I see that science points to God via the complexity of life and reproduction; through the digital elegance of DNA; and by the fact that intelligently organized and purpose-driven beings arose from matter. And I see that science points to God by the very existence of nature itself.

I see that arriving at a divine Source for the universe and everything in it as having proceeded on a purely rational and logical and natural level…on a scientific basis…without any reference to supernatural phenomena at all. It’s a simple exercise in the knowledge of God based on observed facts and observed experience ~ apart from divine revelation. I see that arriving at the knowledge of God has been an excursion of reason and logic and science alone ~ and not ‘just’ of faith. One can even take ‘faith’ completely out of it.

No, the existence of the universe is not evidence for a creator.

The existence of the universe is evidence that a universe exists, nothing more.

How it came about may be worked out through physics and cosmology, which is a work in progress and there are no conclusions.

There are any number of possibilities. The fact is, there being no conclusions, we don't know. The universe may be cyclic, a part of a greater system, etc.

Calling the cosmos, or universe, a creation is an unsubstantiated assertion.

There's nothing in religious documents that even come close to describing the universe because those writers had no idea. You'd think a god would want to mention that to somebody - might've added more clout to the story.

Like many of the issues we are dealing with today, this is brought to you by generations of failed parenting.

Has anyone figured out which of the accounts is a sock puppet?