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Too far to the left.. Only saving grace to that shot might be that the NBT flies apart and gets some lung. A sturdy bullet will likely just tear a bunch of meat out and now you've got a runner. Farther right and a whisker lower for me. I agree with you Yoder. That yellow dot is a very poor shot placement. No bueno. I agree also, that's terrible shot placement.
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I'm generally going for a hit anywhere in this outline with a rifle. This is correct. anywhere in that circle = Dead Deer.
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I'm generally going for a hit anywhere in this outline with a rifle. This is correct. anywhere in that circle = Dead Deer. I like the midpoint of that circle in the vertical plane, right in the crease of the neck and shoulder on the horizontal plane. Maybe a touch higher than midpoint if I'm shooting at a downward angle.
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Too far to the left.. Only saving grace to that shot might be that the NBT flies apart and gets some lung. A sturdy bullet will likely just tear a bunch of meat out and now you've got a runner. Farther right and a whisker lower for me. I agree with you Yoder. That yellow dot is a very poor shot placement. No bueno. I agree also, that's terrible shot placement. Which was my original post with that pic.
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The last 3 deer I’ve killed were all facing me or quartering to. I placed the bullet lower than the picture above basically between the 2 front legs in the solar plexus. None of the 3 took so much as a step and literally crumbled into a ball in their tracks, a couple death kicks and they were finished. Extremely fast clean kills on all 3.
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I'm generally going for a hit anywhere in this outline with a rifle. My shot would be centered and in the lower 1/3 of that circle depending on if I was elevated or not. YMMV
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Near the road.
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"Best place to shoot a deer quartering toward you"
Near the road. Hunting in the Long Pasture there in New York? 🤨
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Point of the shoulder dead deer
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Orange dot for me.
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I would shoot the upper end of that circle and the deer wouldn't take a step.
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Stick, Agreed that a BT is a bit soft for a shoulder, but losing a trophy buck to a TSX was all I needed to experience to switch to faster opening BT's. You didn’t lose a trophy buck to a TSX. You lost a trophy buck to poor shooting.
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[quote=Doc_Holidude]
Stick, Agreed that a BT is a bit soft for a shoulder, but losing a trophy buck to a TSX was all I needed to experience to switch to faster opening BT's. You didn’t lose a trophy buck to a TSX. You lost a trophy buck to poor shooting. I went to a deer seminar once and the speaker was extolling the “withers shot”. Since that buck was broadside with just his upper half exposed, I tried that shot. Five drops of blood and two days of looking resulted in my only lost deer ever. Minimal wound channels on previous lung shot deer with a TSX and reading Mule Deer’s posts about TSX’s under .30 caliber sporadic performance has me pretty convinced that my bullet didn’t inflict the damage that using a “softer” bullet would have. Last year’s buck with a similar high in the back NBT dumped him on the spot. I suspect that the TSX morphed into the TTSX for the same reason. Much as I’d like to wait for a more broadside shot presentation, I’ve been picked off most often with deer quartering toward me and hunting the brush where I do, shooting early before they see or wind a person has been a better plan hence the question on the quartering to shot placement. I appreciate all the input.
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check your quoting…you attached me to a Big_Stick/cra1948 convo. I’ve never lost an animal to a TSX or TTSX bullet. 😎
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Those TSX's do make for a tidy carcass Doc, but seeing a quarter size hole through both lungs on a whitetail instead of lung mush that I've seen with c&c bullets should have told me it wasn't what I wanted in a deer bullet. Now I'm wondering how my 140 grain NBT would do if it did hit a deer's shoulder? Even big deer aren't that large and I can only remember stopping 2-3 bullets in deer over a lifetime of hunting them.
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yessir, every shot on every animal, no matter the variables, is it’s own unique occurrence. not every bullet replicates the exact “terminal performance” as the previous one did, even with every controlled or mostly controllable variable being the same. if one runs 80 yards and dies and one dies standing right where it’s shot, with every possible other thing being as close to identical(cartridge, load, rifle, distance, shot placement, angle, animal size, sex, condition of animal, weather, etc, does that mean the bullet is to blame for 2 different death scenarios? who knows? is the animal less dead? nope. not an exact science, for sure. for someone to say that they’ll never use brand “Y” bullets because they lost an animal one time to them, is like saying I’ll never buy this brand tire because I had a flat with them one time. about as many variables involved in both scenarios. repeated failures with said bullet or tire would be a cause for loss of confidence for person #1. but if person #2 never experienced the bad luck(or “bad product”) are they just really lucky or are the variables in their favor? guess we’ll never know that part either. I’ll keep using Barnes bullets with confidence until life experience shows me not to. if you can’t abide using TSX or TTSX bullets in any caliber, send them to me, I’ll use them. 😎
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Windfall: Wait until the Deer turns broadside and shoot the Deer through the heart/lungs! Patience is a virtue and has manifold rewards - especially when Hunting Big Game. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Windfall: Wait until the Deer turns broadside and shoot the Deer through the heart/lungs! Patience is a virtue and has manifold rewards - especially when Hunting Big Game. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy You've obviously never hunted in the big woods.
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My primarily hunt is an open field I normally don’t have to face that shot But when in the heavy cover I agree with SKane this shot pops up more that one would imagine so this is great info When I am in the woods it’s totally different than sitting on my field
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